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Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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Please look at the second image in this article[0]. It shows each frame of the video where a shot was fired. Her tires were pointed away when the first shot was fired and the second two shots were from the side of the vehicle. She was clearly trying to leave, she was not trying to hit anyone. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/01/08/vid...

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Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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What I find even more horrifying than the murder is the response from people in power. Lying. Calling the victim a terrorist. Claiming she deserved it. Expressing unequivocal support for the killer. Threatening more of the same for the opposition. Posting fucking memes! Not even a hint of sympathy anywhere to be seen. These people are animals. They should be in chains in front of a tribunal, not running the country.…

Man is the only animal to claim a God, and the only animal to behave as if there is no God.

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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Please look at the second image in this article[0]. It shows each frame of the video where a shot was fired. Her tires were pointed away when the first shot was fired and the second two shots were from the side of the vehicle. She was clearly trying to leave, she was not trying to hit anyone. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/01/08/vid...

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Okay, so it is indeed tribal parrotism. My question has been answered. Unfortunately..

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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The women he is praising for filming is, according to the current government, committing illegal violence against the ICE agents. https://reason.com/2026/01/08/you-have-the-right-to-record-i... > The Trump Administration Says It's Illegal To Record Videos of ICE. Here's What the Law Says. > Violence is anything that threatens them and their safety, so it is doxing them, it's videotaping them where they're at when the…

And your point is ? Because someone is filming, it is okay for a federal agent to execute their partner ? I'm not sure I understand.

No, they're supporting Gruber's statement that the woman filming was putting herself in very real danger by filming the shooting and then continuing to film for several minutes after.

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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It's almost like giving a nearly-completely-unregulated quasi-military force unlimited funding, more weapons than God, and no clear goals other than "deport more people" is actually a really bad idea. People voted for this. Oh but hey, we at least made sure to pretend to save money by firing and then rapidly rehiring a lot of the workforce.

If we give money to groups that aid and support the protection of illegal aliens, no sense in not outspending them.

> illegal aliens

Do you mean "human beings"

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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If we give money to groups that aid and support the protection of illegal aliens, no sense in not outspending them.

Here you appear to be using "illegal aliens" as a synonym for "immigrants". Groups that aid and support immigrants are doing a service that benefits America and all Americans; we should give them money so they can continue to help. Immigration is of benefit to most nations; we are no different. But if and when you call immigrants illegal aliens, you're removing an important distinction and distorting reality. Have yo…

Apparently, a lot of people like cmxch aren’t familiar with the age depopulation bomb, where senior citizens start outnumbering everyone else like in Japan. We need immigration to keep economy healthy

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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It's almost like giving a nearly-completely-unregulated quasi-military force unlimited funding, more weapons than God, and no clear goals other than "deport more people" is actually a really bad idea. People voted for this. Oh but hey, we at least made sure to pretend to save money by firing and then rapidly rehiring a lot of the workforce.

If we give money to groups that aid and support the protection of illegal aliens, no sense in not outspending them.

How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand?

The issue from the article is that an "Immigration" agency used lethal violence against a _citizen of the US_.

This is not an illegal aliens issue.

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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I'm not sure this will play well for them politically. A fair bit of what got Trump elected was saying they'd protect ordinary Americans from immigrant criminals. Now they have footage of a white middle class mum in an suv, pretty much their median voter, being shot dead by their thugs and saying don't believe you eyes and clear video evidence, she tried to run an officer over when she obviously didn't.

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Officers are trained to never approach from the front. Shooting a driver in a vehicle headed towards you does not stop the vehicle. This officer ignored all of his training because he wanted to kill someone. It's unconscionable to defend it.

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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If we give money to groups that aid and support the protection of illegal aliens, no sense in not outspending them.

How is this even relevant to the discussion at hand? The issue from the article is that an "Immigration" agency used lethal violence against a _citizen of the US_. This is not an illegal aliens issue.

The original poster was the one that questioned the funding, so talking about funding is on topic. The illegal aliens issue is why they need so much funding. USA has a bigger illegal alien issue than any other developed country, so to fix that it makes sense they need more funding to try to solve it.

Re: Let's call a murder a murder

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As self-proclaimed hackers who are part of a community whose core values include curiosity and critical thinking, we do ourselves, and the world, a massive disservice by closing our eyes and ears to important information just because it's political in nature. Hacker culture and fascism are antithetical, and we should all be acutely aware when the current regime moves towards violence to squash dissent.

i know the site moniker is "hacker news" but the tech industry at large is the furthest thing from being anything resembling a collective of hackers...

The actual technical thought leaders aren’t necessarily representative of the tech industry at large. Id like to think at least some with a hacker ethos have made it to decision making positions - and hacker news is a spot for em to congregate.
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