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Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

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Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#61

There are lots of reasons to dislike Spotify but a frustration of mine with the "I ditched Spotify" discourse is that it hides the ball. As this article quietly acknowledges at the end: ditching streaming services either means spending a lot more money or listening to a lot less music. To be clear I think either option is fine, but those seem like the important aspects of the change. If you are going to spend 10x mor…

There is another way. Spend some money on artists, directly (digital downloads, merchandise, concerts, etc.). Pirate all music.

If you still spend as much on music as before (for the sake of argument), more of that amount now goes to the people who actually make music. It's a big middle finger to Spotify and the likes.

Of course, the obvious issue is that your money now isn't distributed fairly according to some viewpoints. You like band A, and buy some of their merchandise or a CD, but you also pirate singer B's music, and don't pay them a dime. On the other hand, if you want to stop helping these mega-platforms exploit artists and users and just generally suck, piracy seems like a good answer if you can do it without risking yourself.

It won't help much in the short term though, this is not an option for most people, but I won't judge anyone taking this route and can see how it can be ethically sound for many (but certainly not for all).

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#62
post #8

I recently made the same switch. Tailscale plus jellyfin is great. Threw in Immich too for good measure. I wanted a nice native client for Linux instead of using the web app so I wrote one in Rust. Shameless plug: https://github.com/Fingel/gelly

Do you have a recommendation for a Jellyfin client that does a good job for music, for either iOS or Android?

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#64
post #18

I never used Spotify, keep buying CDs, and occasionally MP3 from digital stores. Still doing the modern version of mix tapes. Haven't lost anything, and is with a smile I observe kids today being responsible for the revival of portable tape and CD players.

I've used Spotify a little from time to time over the years, but I never got rid of my music files. I have MP3 files around that I encoded in the 90's.

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#65
post #27

Spotify is the only streaming service I still pay for, and I will continue to pay for, because: 1. The catalog is comprehensive. I listen to far more music than I could afford to own. 2. There are no advertisements in the paid service. 3. Their music discovery algorithm is excellent. I also appreciate the yearly statistics, and how they continue to add value for me. Podcasts and eBooks being added to the platform was…

Tidal has smaller library but higher quality (assuming your speakers allow you to tell the difference).

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well obviously you could just pirate it instead right? Like piracy or not, spending more money or listening to less music are not the only options. Hell you could not pirate it and just listen on youtube - that's another option. The real cost to self-hosted is time and complexity. But there are all sorts of alternatives to simply not using Spotify anymore - not just self hosting.

Sure - but as you can see here the focus on "ditching spotify" is often ethical. You can absolutely use services that have an artist pay-rate of $0 per stream, but I don't think people typically advocate for that - and indeed this author does not seem to either (otherwise they would have no collection size issues).

The piracy route can even be ethical. Compare:

* Have a Spotify subscription, listen to all 10 albums of some artist.

* Pirate everything, but buy a T-shirt from that artist.

* Buy one album digitally (their latest), and pirate the rest.

What is the artist earning from your contributions in these three cases?

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#67
I stopped my Spotify subscription and gave Apple Music and Youtube Music a try for a few months. I'm now again a Spotify user, despite that Youtube Music is still included in my Youtube Premium.

The apps are terrible in terms of usability, performance, and reliability. I couldn't believe Apple dropped the ball on so hard on this, but then I remembered iTunes and started believing again.

Most of my problem is basic necessities. For instance, it's impossible to remove a playing song from its current playlist on competing apps. That's such a common, basic scenario that Spotify can perform easily.

Youtube Music has horrible sound quality, no need to say it doesn't provide a lossless option. Apple Music is on par with Spotify in sound quality but that's pretty much where Apple's competitiveness ends. I had to struggle with Apple Music even with the simplest things.

My Apple Music summary: https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3m2mvmybjr225

My Youtube Music summary: https://bsky.app/profile/ssg.dev/post/3m5ms6fxsrs27

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#68

What do people do to stream to their phones. The article just mentions Wireguard, but how is the media actually played?

Usually either the Jellyfin/Navidrome app/web UI, or a native player app that talks to your NAS over the VPN.

For iOS I ended up building a small app for my own setup that streams files straight from the NAS (SFTP/FTP) over WireGuard/Tailscale so no media server in between. TestFlight if anyone wants to try: https://testflight.apple.com/join/PaQAsGcM

Re: Self hosting my media library with Jellyfin and Wireguard on Hetzner

#70

A couple of points missed for why Spotify is bad: - Paying musicians cheap wages to make boring music (ghost artists) for playlists they promote: https://harpers.org/archive/2025/01/the-ghosts-in-the-machin... - Not paying musicians anything at all if they don't have enough streams: https://www.engadget.com/spotify-confirms-it-wont-offer-payo... - Not preventing the deluge of AI-generated music flooding the platform:…

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