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Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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> But who's financially secure at 25? Those backed up by their government?

it's dysgenic to enable reproduction through welfare. Better to create an economy where young people can start families off of their own labor.

The party in power is doing neither so

Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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> I think people should have kids when they are ready. Make an assessment to the best of their ability when exactly that time has arrived. While I kinda agree with this, I've known some folks whose standard for 'ready' was a lot higher than previous generations/other cultures. For example, I could get a folding desk, move my home office into my bedroom, and put 3 kids in bunk beds in one room. Or I could say I'm not…

For thousands of years, mankind struggled for survival. We invented agriculture, shelter, clawed our way into modern medicine and eventuallt multiplied on the face of the earth. But as it turns out, the limit of our growth was that precious currency of desk space. We scoured the ends of the earth and wept, for there was no more desk space left.

Alas, a land value tax would fix this

Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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I (male) was very lucky and this made me realise. Had kids lateish (30) but that is due to finding soneone to do that with took that long. Being shy etc. But now I feel in 40s I am too old to have a baby! I glad I didnt wait too long. Or dont have kids at all which is fine and max on the freedom to do whatever life. I think I agree decide if you want kids then if so have them early as possible but under proviso of a…

Out of curiosity, what kind of physical shape are you in? I’m nearing 40 and have wanted kids my entire life, but similarly, haven’t found the right partner. If I ever felt I was too old to have kids I’d probably have no choice but to kill myself. But I’m also in excellent physical shape and feel no physically different than I did in my 20s (other than being stronger and more coordinated now).

I had kids 'early' for my peer group (early 30s when most are pushing 40) and there is a noticeable difference in the amount of energy I have. It's not playing games with kids (the stereotypical keeping up with the kids at the park) it's that early years of childhood mean that you have 5+ years of bad / shorter sleep and get sick more than you probably have since you were a child.

Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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Being a parent gets harder the older you are, not just becoming a parent which is where the focus tends to be. Yes you have fewer financial resources and less life experience, but if you want kids the best time is as soon as you can. Kids don't care about how rich you are (so long as needs are met - those concerns come later and enough will never be enough for a teenager) and they don't know that we're all making it up as you go along. Have kids at 25 means that by your early 40s you are pretty much free again but parented in times of good health.

Doing the school run now and seeing parents pushing 50 with primary school aged children makes me sad for them and their kids when I see how physically shattered they look through the fatigue and stress.

Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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I feel we should have children as early as possible between 18 and 30, but we should also stay together with our parents. Grandparents can raise their grandchildren. They would do a better job. The problem is now everyone wants to go on their own, separate from the community, then call modern life difficult.

Because fuck community. It's extremely rare to meet people who don't suck. My parents were never interested in me as a person, they were interested in me fulfilling their fantasy of a picture-perfect family. My aunt completely exploited her husband and then he happened to drink himself to death which was completely and unavoidably his own fault. Now she's ruining her daughter's teenage years just so that she can scor…

Don't look at the world through the lenses of your problematic upbringing.

Healthy communities exist. They are increasingly rare due to the massive shift in the way of living, but they do exist.

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I feel we should have children as early as possible between 18 and 30, but we should also stay together with our parents. Grandparents can raise their grandchildren. They would do a better job. The problem is now everyone wants to go on their own, separate from the community, then call modern life difficult.

Because fuck community. It's extremely rare to meet people who don't suck. My parents were never interested in me as a person, they were interested in me fulfilling their fantasy of a picture-perfect family. My aunt completely exploited her husband and then he happened to drink himself to death which was completely and unavoidably his own fault. Now she's ruining her daughter's teenage years just so that she can scor…

This way of seeing the world is foreign to me. My family, friends, neighbours, co-workers, and even the guy who works at my local bakery are all good people.

I agree that most of the people I meet aren't going to be my friends, but disagree that they aren't worth being friends with for someone else. Most of them have got other friends. They're still worth something even when I don't have enough in common with them to want to hang out. I'm better than them at the things I'm good at, but they've all got their own strengths where they must surely outdo me.

I can't tell if you're from a different culture, carry some trauma, expect an unrealistic level of commitment, or something else that would cause us to have such a different outlook on life. I'm sorry that you've been let down by other people and I hope things get better for you.

Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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While I understand and empathize with what this article is getting at ("If you intend to have children, but you don’t intend to have them just yet, you are not banking extra years as a person who is still too young to have children. You are subtracting years from the time you will share the world with your children."), I strongly disagree. I think people should have kids when they are ready. Make an assessment to the…

Ready? When is anyone ready? My wife (of 18 months) and I just decided to have a baby. It never occured to us we weren't ready. In the 9 months we decided we needed to live somewhere with another room for the baby and moved in with 3 months to go. We had next to nothing prepared, but do you know what, it didn't matter. Babies demands are, at first very simple, food and sleep. We just handled the rest as we went along. We had done having children by the time we were 30.

Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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Because fuck community. It's extremely rare to meet people who don't suck. My parents were never interested in me as a person, they were interested in me fulfilling their fantasy of a picture-perfect family. My aunt completely exploited her husband and then he happened to drink himself to death which was completely and unavoidably his own fault. Now she's ruining her daughter's teenage years just so that she can scor…

Don't look at the world through the lenses of your problematic upbringing. Healthy communities exist. They are increasingly rare due to the massive shift in the way of living, but they do exist.

The thing is a healthy community, by definition, isn’t going to allow a struggling loner to join them

Re: Real Biological Clock Is You're Going to Die (2018)

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I feel we should have children as early as possible between 18 and 30, but we should also stay together with our parents. Grandparents can raise their grandchildren. They would do a better job. The problem is now everyone wants to go on their own, separate from the community, then call modern life difficult.

My partner died when my child was a year and a half. So I mostly moved in with my parents...

I used to have a good relationship with them, but they think I'm doing everything wrong. If my situation was a tiny bit better I'd move out. Like this, I sacrifice my sanity for some personal freedom: my parents enable me to go swimming or running or out to a pub every now and then.

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