Vivaldi doesn't block ads as well as uBlock Origin, so I'll stick with uBlock Origin which means Firefox and friends anymore.
You can run uBlock in Vivaldi.
I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
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Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#62I’m heavily invested in the Google ecosystem and nothing would make me happier than switching to a privacy-focused European alternative. However, the value of the Google Workspace* mid-tier (approx. 15€) is hard to beat, I think. I get: - granular domain \ email controls (blocklists, routing rules, etc.) - 2tb of google drive space - and now Gemini, which is quite nice It’s 2025, and I’m still finding it impossible t…
Infomanikak “kSuite bussiness” plan 79eur year. 5 email adresses. 3TB drive (their kDrive is legit better than google drive). WebDav/CardDav/CalDav. Their kMeet conferencing is solid.
Recently they got some Euria AI - i havent tried it i bet it's bad. Rest though i really like.
Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
If Proton is too expensive, you can use zoho. I switched from Google and I'm missing nothing.
I moved from Zoho to Gmail, b/c of their pricing. Google's basic plan is $7/mo [0], whereas the lowest cost plan with zoho is $25/mo [1]. Zoho's free plan stopped offering custom domains and/or limits imap access. [0] - https://workspace.google.com/lp/business/ [1] - https://www.zoho.com/us/billing/pricing/
The zoho link you provided is for the billing product, not the email product. I use zoho with three low usage domains and pay $1 a month.
Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#64Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#65I really wanted to switch to the Proton stack and even tried it for a couple weeks but the search in Proton Mail is so bad I couldn’t use it for even simple things like finding my airline tickets. I had to switch back to Google Workspace. It doesn’t seem like Proton even really cares about the how bad their mail search is and is more focused on releasing new products.
> search in Proton Mail is so bad I couldn’t use it for even simple things like finding my airline tickets.
Not sure if it's related but
Proton does not hold your unencrypted email body content
It's not perfect but obviously it's a LOT more than searching only on titles.
Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#6650% expenditure saving sounds good, but how many more hours per month are you now spending making it all work?
Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
They moved from platform USA/Surveillance-Capitalism to platform non-USA/Privacy. That's a big deal to some of us. Especially important it the demonstration that your privacy which Google et al, are so insistent on monetizing, does not mean they are charging you less for the same services that other companies can charge when you are paying only with your money, not your privacy as well.
I mean I don't think anyone seriously thinks the USA doesn't have access to all the EU data.
That's a bold claim, are you implying that encryption is a scam?
Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
They moved from platform USA/Surveillance-Capitalism to platform non-USA/Privacy. That's a big deal to some of us. Especially important it the demonstration that your privacy which Google et al, are so insistent on monetizing, does not mean they are charging you less for the same services that other companies can charge when you are paying only with your money, not your privacy as well.
> USA/Surveillance-Capitalism to platform non-USA/Privacy. I laughed at this, as an european. I mean just this year we've had like 3 scares with chat control, and the latest news is that they're still trying / succeeding on some fronts. Please don't reduce such complicated matters to red vs. blue, it's really more complicated and there are no easy solutions anywhere.
> I laughed at this, as an european. I mean just this year we've had like 3 scares with chat control,
Strange to compare "scares" with a business model that's 20 years old now. Sure the EU is far from perfect but it's like comparing a well known problem to a potential one. One is bad, the other might sucks. It's definitely not equivalent.
Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
> USA/Surveillance-Capitalism to platform non-USA/Privacy. I laughed at this, as an european. I mean just this year we've had like 3 scares with chat control, and the latest news is that they're still trying / succeeding on some fronts. Please don't reduce such complicated matters to red vs. blue, it's really more complicated and there are no easy solutions anywhere.
> I laughed at this, as an european. I mean just this year we've had like 3 scares with chat control, Strange to compare "scares" with a business model that's 20 years old now. Sure the EU is far from perfect but it's like comparing a well known problem to a potential one. One is bad, the other might sucks. It's definitely not equivalent.
> It's definitely not equivalent.
We agree, but not for the reasons you think we do.
Chatcontrol is literally 1984. It's mandated at the provider level. You can't opt out.
You can always chose not to participate in the social media, sharing whatever you do. You can't not participate in chat control. Same same, but different.
Re: I migrated to an almost all-EU stack and saved 500€ per year
#70I have fully bought into Apple’s ecosystem. It’s a walled garden but it’s a pretty nice walled garden, and of all the big tech companies, they are better about privacy (not perfect, but better) than most. I avoid Google like the plague and only use it when I have to. When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized.
Not sure if the comment is a satire, but
> I avoid Google like the plague and only use it when I have to. When you’re interacting with Google, everything you do is going into a log somewhere to be monetized.
HN needs to make an exception for clown emoji.