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>At one prominent tech company, I underwent 13 separate interviews for a single role. In what insane world does this make any amount of sense?
I went through a loop at Meta that was probably 10-11 rounds. I would have done 100. The compensation is truly life changing and the engineering problems were world-class. I'm sure OP is correct that this is a signal for a bad org - but from the outside looking in you'll do anything.
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I've been at three FAANGs now and my experience has been that nobody really cares about your level for day-to-day work. The only times it has ever come up for me is when a) I was part of assembling a new team and we needed a mix of juniors and seniors or b) when some dangerous action like deploying during a holiday code freeze needed approval from an L9+ by policy, so you had to go find that person and justify it to…
Why did you bounce around faangs if you don’t mind me asking? Reading this site it seems… not uncommon, but I don’t understand why. Finding and starting a new job stinks haha.
>At one prominent tech company, I underwent 13 separate interviews for a single role. In what insane world does this make any amount of sense?
>At one prominent tech company, I underwent 13 separate interviews for a single role. In what insane world does this make any amount of sense?
I went through a loop at Meta that was probably 10-11 rounds. I would have done 100. The compensation is truly life changing and the engineering problems were world-class. I'm sure OP is correct that this is a signal for a bad org - but from the outside looking in you'll do anything.
Reading this I feel like I live on another planet. I recognize this guy seems to only be dealing with FAANG type companies, but the disconnect from my own reality is so vast it’s hard to reconcile. I have never worked anywhere with the L4/L5/whatever crap. No one I have worked with has either. It sounds downright dystopian that people are reduced to a basically a number (if you leave out the L). I am assuming he left…
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Why did you bounce around faangs if you don’t mind me asking? Reading this site it seems… not uncommon, but I don’t understand why. Finding and starting a new job stinks haha.
I bounced from Amazon to Microsoft to Amazon to Microsoft to Facebook. Why? Because the grass is always greener on the other side. Amazon didn't pay enough, Microsoft was too boring, Amazon was too chaotic, and then Facebook paid much more. All bad decisions, but I only know that in hindsight. I'm not very smart.
Reading this I feel like I live on another planet. I recognize this guy seems to only be dealing with FAANG type companies, but the disconnect from my own reality is so vast it’s hard to reconcile. I have never worked anywhere with the L4/L5/whatever crap. No one I have worked with has either. It sounds downright dystopian that people are reduced to a basically a number (if you leave out the L). I am assuming he left…
> I have never worked anywhere with the L4/L5/whatever crap. No one I have worked with has either. It sounds downright dystopian that people are reduced to a basically a number (if you leave out the L). This inevitably happens in any large organization. People just have positions like "Department Head" or "Chief Something-Something" instead of numbers. If anything, engineering/research organizations are unusual becau…
I'm interviewing engineers right now, it is tough to judge what their current level mapping is especially if they come from Facebook. You can guesstimate from their resume accomplishments and tenure but the rest is just interview performance or asking directly - there are staff engineers that get there from 3 years out of college and there are seniors that are at that level for a decade.
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Big tech companies are also notorious for down-leveling if you’re not coming from another big company, so it might not actually be that good of a move.
Well of course, if you were CTO of a company of 10, you can't expect to be hired as CTO of Google.
> The results of that meeting? The same from the previous promotion decisions; “it’s unfortunately a no. You don’t have enough impact.” Promotion at Google, as in many places, is tough. Status is allocated partially on level, so it sucks to not see that growth. Sometimes lack of promotion can be not having the right opportunities. It's fair to leave a company for whatever reason. For any other L4->L5s, or anyone want…