Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

haveibeenflocked.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 130 posts

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#61

Post by miohtama »

CalChris wrote: post #19
greyface- wrote: post #10

If Flock truly believed that the domain name infringes on their trademark, they would file an ICANN UDRP complaint instead of Cloudflare and Hetzner abuse reports. But they don't, because the former would require them to perjure themselves, and the latter just requires them to lie to a hosting company.

I wonder if Flock + Cyble can be sued for fraud. There are 5 elements in a fraud: Misrepresentation of Fact Knowledge of Falsity Intent to Induce Reliance Justifiable Reliance Resulting Damages

You would need damages

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#62

Post by nerdsniper »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #4

This is a Y Combinator company? https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/flock-safety dang/tomhow, does Y Combinator have a code of ethics that comes into play when one of your funding recipients does something unethical and/or illegal like this?

To some extent, YCombinator partners are on the record[0] supporting the idea of their startups doing illegal things. Generally they'll frame this as challenging outdated regulations, but they acknowledge that the founders whose strategies they fully support sometimes come into office hours and discuss how they're worried that the strategy puts them at risk of going to jail.

0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm-ZIiwiN1o&t=8m46s

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#63

Post by mapontosevenths »

voidfunc wrote: post #25
therobots927 wrote: post #3

Absolutely unacceptable behavior. Wild that Americans are so distracted by pointless social issues that they haven’t even realized the ruling elite are treating them like cattle. Absolutely pathetic.

America is huge and there's a lot of exceptionally stupid people especially in the South and Midwest. Not much I can do about that over here in the coastal Northeast.

I think you will find that fifty percent of people are of below average intelligence regardless of where you live.

The average does tend to vary from state to state. It actually is a bit lower in the southern and midwestern states, but only by a few points.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-...

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#64

Post by 63stack »

TheDong wrote: post #54
VladVladikoff wrote: post #37

> The site’s only input fields accept license plate numbers (which are hashed client-side before transmission and cannot be harvested) License plates are trivially short, hashing them accomplishes no additional level of privacy if the hashes could be bruted in seconds on an antique GPU.

Being able to say "Our server never sees user-input license plate numbers", even though from a technical perspective the hash is just as identifiable, does have value. Even though it offers no additional privacy, it does let non-technically-minded users and so on feel safer, and that's valuable.

The value is being able to mislead your users

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#65

Post by jmeister »

voidfunc wrote: post #25
therobots927 wrote: post #3

Absolutely unacceptable behavior. Wild that Americans are so distracted by pointless social issues that they haven’t even realized the ruling elite are treating them like cattle. Absolutely pathetic.

America is huge and there's a lot of exceptionally stupid people especially in the South and Midwest. Not much I can do about that over here in the coastal Northeast.

Flock helped catch the Boston/Brown shooter.

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#67

Post by Natfan »

jmeister wrote: post #65
voidfunc wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

America is huge and there's a lot of exceptionally stupid people especially in the South and Midwest. Not much I can do about that over here in the coastal Northeast.

Flock helped catch the Boston/Brown shooter.

the guy who took himself out? what did flock do to assist there?

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#68

Post by croes »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #37

> The site’s only input fields accept license plate numbers (which are hashed client-side before transmission and cannot be harvested) License plates are trivially short, hashing them accomplishes no additional level of privacy if the hashes could be bruted in seconds on an antique GPU.

They have indexed publicly available data. The privacy was long gone before you even entered a license plate number. Or do you think other actors didn’t have the same data but without a frontend to show it to you?

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#69

Post by thayne »

CalChris wrote: post #19
greyface- wrote: post #10

If Flock truly believed that the domain name infringes on their trademark, they would file an ICANN UDRP complaint instead of Cloudflare and Hetzner abuse reports. But they don't, because the former would require them to perjure themselves, and the latter just requires them to lie to a hosting company.

I wonder if Flock + Cyble can be sued for fraud. There are 5 elements in a fraud: Misrepresentation of Fact Knowledge of Falsity Intent to Induce Reliance Justifiable Reliance Resulting Damages

The "resulting damages" is pretty small though, they just had to move off of cloudflare. I'm not sure it would be worth it, especially if the other side doesn't end up paying their legal costs.

Re: Flock and Cyble Inc. weaponize “cybercrime” takedowns to silence critics

#70

Post by yard2010 »

voidfunc wrote: post #25
therobots927 wrote: post #3

Absolutely unacceptable behavior. Wild that Americans are so distracted by pointless social issues that they haven’t even realized the ruling elite are treating them like cattle. Absolutely pathetic.

America is huge and there's a lot of exceptionally stupid people especially in the South and Midwest. Not much I can do about that over here in the coastal Northeast.

It's not about stupid people, there are stupid people everywhere, it's about the .1% elite controlling all the wealth and power, using flaws in the ways humans work (stupid or not every human has to have shelter and food to survive).
Post reply on HN