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You have reached the end of the internet (2006)

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Re: You have reached the end of the internet (2006)

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Interesting how internet boosters in the late 90s/early 2000s told us the internet would revitalize democracy by making it so anyone could publish. I'm not aware of a single cynic who successfully predicted how things actually ended up turning out. Nor have I seen much of an attempt to revisit those early predictions.

You should play Metal Gear Solid 2, or at least watch the last codec call[1]. See how much you can apply what it talks about to the current year. This game came out a month after 9/11. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA

Related: https://www.dexerto.com/gaming/hideo-kojima-says-metal-gear-... (title: Hideo Kojima says Metal Gear Solid 2 became the future he hoped would not happen)

Re: You have reached the end of the internet (2006)

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Interesting how internet boosters in the late 90s/early 2000s told us the internet would revitalize democracy by making it so anyone could publish. I'm not aware of a single cynic who successfully predicted how things actually ended up turning out. Nor have I seen much of an attempt to revisit those early predictions.

> I'm not aware of a single cynic who successfully predicted how things actually ended up turning out. Let's change that here and now! :) I was one of the optimists in the very early 2000s when I attended a talk by Columbia professor Eli Noam. In 2002, he wrote an article in the Financial Times called "Why the internet is bad for democracy" which essentially predicted the world is we know it. I immediately saw that h…

Short, densely packed and to the point. It does seem very prescient, although I may be underestimating how clearly these tendencies could already be seen 20 years ago. I, for one, was definitely still in the techno-optimist camp back then.

"Free access to information is indeed helpful, which is why the internet undermines totalitarianism. But it undermines pretty much everything else, too, including democracy."

Indeed.

Re: You have reached the end of the internet (2006)

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Me finishing browsing the final page of the WWW in 1993. "Well, that was fun. Back to IRC."

I remember when “browsing the WWW” literally involved scrolling through a categorized list of pages via a portal in Netscape. At the time, the only place I knew to get online was a single PC in the library at UNC Charlotte, where my mother worked. There was a sign next to it explaining what the World Wide Web was. I taught myself to play the guitar using ASCII tabs on the OnLine Guitar Archive.

I remember buying print magazines that published the hottest new URLs, with screenshots!

Re: You have reached the end of the internet (2006)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting how internet boosters in the late 90s/early 2000s told us the internet would revitalize democracy by making it so anyone could publish. I'm not aware of a single cynic who successfully predicted how things actually ended up turning out. Nor have I seen much of an attempt to revisit those early predictions.

Earth by David Brin and Ender’s Game made some predictions in this area

Also William Gibson and other cyberpunk franchises. A big recurring theme is the lost fight against corporate interests. A bit worse than the state our world is in right now but certainly where we're heading.

Re: You have reached the end of the internet (2006)

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What year do we predict internet.zip would be downloadable in say one day.

It occurs to me that downloading e.g. llama.cpp kind of is like downloading the whole internet? Or a very lossy-compressed version of it.

Yes I've thought the same. It's pretty cool. Not terribly functional but yeah
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