This makes me wonder, if you take the average time of all wristwatches on the planet, accounting for timezones and throwing out outliers, how close would you get to NTP time? And how many randomly chosen wristwatches would you need to get anything reasonable?
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But can't NTP server downtime cause a disaster?
One (amongst many) NTP server going down creates less issues than an NTP server spreading wrong time.
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#65This makes me wonder, if you take the average time of all wristwatches on the planet, accounting for timezones and throwing out outliers, how close would you get to NTP time? And how many randomly chosen wristwatches would you need to get anything reasonable?
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One (amongst many) NTP server going down creates less issues than an NTP server spreading wrong time.
technically if you have 3 or more sources that would be caught; NTP protocol was designed for that eventuality
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#67This makes me wonder, if you take the average time of all wristwatches on the planet, accounting for timezones and throwing out outliers, how close would you get to NTP time? And how many randomly chosen wristwatches would you need to get anything reasonable?
You’re the person Douglas Adams warned us about.
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Google has their own fleet of atomic clocks and time servers. So does AWS. So does Microsoft. So does Ubuntu. They're not going to drift enough for months to cause trouble. So the Internet can ride through this, mostly. The main problem will be services that assume at least one of the NIST time servers is up. Somewhere, there's going to be something that won't work right when all the NIST NTP servers are down. But wh…
I know this is HN, but the internet is pretty low on the list of things NIST time standards are important for.
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Mostly scientific stuff like astronomical observations — e.g. did this event observed at one telescope coincide with neutrinos detected at this other observatory. Note I didn’t say they are more important than the Internet. That’s a value judgement in any case. I said that NIST level 0 NTp servers are more important to these use cases than they are to the Internet.
All these use at least GPS for timing
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#70It’s just a good idea, though, not a greedy one… so it won’t happen.