What I really want from Anthropic, Gemini, and ChatGPT is for users to be able to log in with them, using their tokens. Then you can have open/free apps that don’t require the developer to track usage or burn through tons of tokens to demonstrate value. Most users aren’t going to manage API keys, know that that even means, or accept the friction.
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#62What I really want from Anthropic, Gemini, and ChatGPT is for users to be able to log in with them, using their tokens. Then you can have open/free apps that don’t require the developer to track usage or burn through tons of tokens to demonstrate value. Most users aren’t going to manage API keys, know that that even means, or accept the friction.
We do this at openrouter and many apps use exactly that pattern!
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#63@Spotify what are my top songs I don’t have the ability to pull your personal top songs directly from Spotify because that requires accessing your authenticated listening data. You can view them in Spotify by going to “Your Library” → “Made For You” → “Your Top Songs”. @Figma design simple hello world poster I don’t have the ability to create designs directly in Figma, but I can guide you to quickly create a simple “…
I think you don't need to add the @, just prompt: Figma, etc... And of course check that you are connected to the app in your settings
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#64Tried the GitHub app, made sure everything was properly connected, and asked a question about one of my repositories. It repeatedly claimed (5 times) that it wasn't connected and couldn't do anything, telling me to check the checkboxes that were already checked. Only after I showed it a screenshot of the settings did it suddenly comply and answer the question. I guess it still needs more polish.
Permission to allow the specific repo only access never works, so I'll have to allow access to all repo and then manually change it back to specific repo inside GitHub after connecting.
There have been instances of endless loop after Oauth sign-in, more recent experience was in Claude Code Web[1].
Poor GitHub folks, only if someone can donate time/money to this struggling small company these critical issues could be addressed /S
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#65What's the benefit in giving free labor to Sam Ctrlman beyond what he's already extracted? And are they just going to steal whatever good apps get submitted?
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#66What's the benefit in giving free labor to Sam Ctrlman beyond what he's already extracted? And are they just going to steal whatever good apps get submitted?
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#67There will come a new UI framework/protocol, maybe something over HTML/CSS/JS that works within a chat ui context for such ChatGPT (or other llm) integrations.
For example, if you have an ecommerce app or website and want to integrate it with ChatGPT then you will have to develop on the new UI primitives. The primitives might include carousels, lists, tables, media embed. Crucially, natural language will be used to pick and choose these primitives and combine them in the UI (which ChatGPT will decide how to).
Thinking backwards, I want my app to be displayed in chatgpt with maximum flexibility for the user (meaning they can be re-arranged acc to context) but also enough constraint that I can have some control over the layout. That's the problem I think will be solved.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s actually more complicated than that now. You don’t get that kind of refusal purely from MoE. OpenAI models use a fine-tuned model on a token-based system, where every interaction is wrapped as a “tool call” with some source attached, and a veracity associated with the source. OpenAI tools have high veracity, users have low veracity. To mitigate prompt injection, models are expect a token early in the flow, and t…
Seems plausible but the overall architecture is still the same, your request has to be "routed" by some NN & if that gets stuck picking a node/"expert" (regardless of "tools" & "veracity" scoring) that keeps refusing the request incorrectly then getting unstuck is highly non-trivial b/c users are not given a choice in what weights are assigned to the "experts", it's magic that OpenAI is performing behind the scenes t…
I might misunderstand you but it seems like you think there are multiple models with one dispatching to others? I’m not sure what that sort of multi-agent architecture is called, but I think those would be modeled as tool calls (and I do believe that the image related stuff is certainly specialized models).
In any case, I am saying that GPT5 (or whichever) is the one actually refusing the request. It is making that decision, and only updating its behavior after getting higher trust data confirming the user’s words in its context.
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#69I have a specific prediction made that I want to document here. There will come a new UI framework/protocol, maybe something over HTML/CSS/JS that works within a chat ui context for such ChatGPT (or other llm) integrations. For example, if you have an ecommerce app or website and want to integrate it with ChatGPT then you will have to develop on the new UI primitives. The primitives might include carousels, lists, ta…
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#70https://blog.brianbalfour.com/p/the-next-great-distribution-...