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Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

#61

I wonder if this suffers from the same issue as 3 Pro, that it frequently "thinks" for a long time about date incongruity, insisting that it is 2024, and that information it receives must be incorrect or hypothetical. Just avoiding/fixing that would probably speed up a good chunk of my own queries.

Omg, it was so frustrating to say:

Summarize recent working arxiv url

And then it tells me the date is from the future and it simply refuses to fetch the URL.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

#62

Even before this release the tools (for me: Claude Code and Gemini for other stuff) reached a "good enough" plateau that means any other company is going to have a hard time making me (I think soon most users) want to switch. Unless a new release from a different company has a real paradigm shift, they're simply sufficient. This was not true in 2023/2024 IMO. With this release the "good enough" and "cheap enough" int…

For me, the last wave of models finally started delivering on their agentic coding promises.

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Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

#63
This is the first flash/mini model that doesn't make a complete ass of itself when I prompt for the following: "Tell me as much as possible about Skatval in Norway. Not general information. Only what is uniquely true for Skatval."

Skatval is a small local area I live in, so I know when it's bullshitting. Usually, I get a long-winded answer that is PURE Barnum-statement, like "Skatval is a rural area known for its beautiful fields and mountains" and bla bla bla.

Even with minimal thinking (it seems to do none), it gives an extremely good answer. I am really happy about this.

I also noticed it had VERY good scores on tool-use, terminal, and agentic stuff. If that is TRUE, it might be awesome for coding.

I'm tentatively optimistic about this.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

#64
Quick pricing comparison: https://www.llm-prices.com/#it=100000&ot=10000&sel=gemini-3-...

It's 1/4 the price of Gemini 3 Pro ≤200k and 1/8 the price of Gemini 3 Pro >200k - notable that the new Flash model doesn’t have a price increase after that 200,000 token point.

It’s also twice the price of GPT-5 Mini for input, half the price of Claude 4.5 Haiku.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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post #30

This is awesome. No preview release either, which is great to production. They are pushing the prices higher with each release though: API pricing is up to $0.5/M for input and $3/M for output For comparison: Gemini 3.0 Flash: $0.50/M for input and $3.00/M for output Gemini 2.5 Flash: $0.30/M for input and $2.50/M for output Gemini 2.0 Flash: $0.15/M for input and $0.60/M for output Gemini 1.5 Flash: $0.075/M for inp…

I'm more curious how Gemini 3 flash lite performs/is priced when it comes out. Because it may be that for most non coding tasks the distinction isn't between pro and flash but between flash and flash lite.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

#67

Pricing is $0.5 / $3 per million input / output tokens. 2.5 Flash was $0.3 / $2.5. That's 66% increase in input tokens and 20% increase in output token pricing. For comparison, from 2.5 Pro ($1.25 / $10) to 3 Pro ($2 / $12), there was 60% increase in input tokens and 20% increase in output tokens pricing.

Calculating price increases is made more complex by the difference in token usage. From https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-3-flash/ :

> Gemini 3 Flash is able to modulate how much it thinks. It may think longer for more complex use cases, but it also uses 30% fewer tokens on average than 2.5 Pro.

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

#68

Deepmind Page: https://deepmind.google/models/gemini/flash/ Developer Blog: https://blog.google/technology/developers/build-with-gemini-... Model Card [pdf]: https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-flash/ Gemini 3 Flash in Search AI mode: https://blog.google/products/search/google-ai-mode-update-ge...

For anyone from the Gemini team reading this: these links should all be prominent in the announcement posts. I always have to hunt around for them!

Re: Gemini 3 Flash: Frontier intelligence built for speed

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post #4

Don’t let the “flash” name fool you, this is an amazing model. I have been playing with it for the past few weeks, it’s genuinely my new favorite; it’s so fast and it has such a vast world knowledge that it’s more performant than Claude Opus 4.5 or GPT 5.2 extra high, for a fraction (basically order of magnitude less!!) of the inference time and price

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