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They don’t care. The customer service era is over.
It doesn't matter if consumers don't like it if everyone does it. The only choice remaining then is to put up with it or not have a TV at all.
For similar reasons many years back when I broke the bank for a G2, I decided to disconnect it forever. Besides the always-on spyware, every update broke something, which is incredibly frustrating considering the amount I spent. For instance, I got a GX soundbar for free with the TV which worked fine for 1–2 months until some update borked it and made it glitch out randomly. To date, none of their updates seem to hav…
Is it possible to use an LG without ever connecting it to the internet in the first place?
But I got a newer LG model 2 years ago, I was still redirecting requests to LG's servers to a local web server (using DNS), but I guess due to https, the certificate checks failed and the attempts to call home failed. This meant that I never got asked to agree to the T&As.
But of course many apps don't work..
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They don’t care. The customer service era is over.
It doesn't matter if consumers don't like it if everyone does it. The only choice remaining then is to put up with it or not have a TV at all.
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And then word gets around that you put salt in coffee instead of sugar, and people stop going to you. Unless you’re the only deli in town.
> And then word gets around that you put salt in coffee instead of sugar, and people stop going to you. Right, but that's somebody elses problem a few quarters from now.
I don’t think Microsoft realizes that this is not a positive for their brand.
its none too good for LG either; also: i think this sort of behaviour is exactly how you chill updates of any sort. it may take a while but when it is publicly salient that updates are sophies choice, and large pie slices of devices stay stock and unconnected, that will dry up that watering hole. paranoia regarding un-updated devices will give way to paranoia regarding updates being used to screw you into something y…
Makes me more and more glad that I never let my TV on any network and only use it as a display for Apple TV, the Blu-Ray player, and playing media from USB drives...
My LG TV has been offline for the past 2 years (since I got it). I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. I know people want "dumb" displays, but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality and benefit from economies of scale, where most users want some form of built-in OS. A signage board cannot compete on price or quality. As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue…
Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or Lineage.
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You've clearly never worked at a large tech company
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My LG TV has been offline for the past 2 years (since I got it). I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. I know people want "dumb" displays, but the reality is that these OLED panels offer industry-leading image quality and benefit from economies of scale, where most users want some form of built-in OS. A signage board cannot compete on price or quality. As long as TV manufacturers let me run it offline without issue…
> I'm so much happier using the Apple TV. Then it is Apple that is harvesting your data. They may or may not display ads (I don't have an AppleTV to check), but they are certainly logging your interactions and possibly selling that data with third parties. That is on top of all the data Apple already has on people using iPhones, and the reason why I will never use anything other than a free/libre ROM like Graphene or…
I've had an LG tv for a couple years. I was previously able to use LG's THINQ app on my phone like a remote to operate the tv. A couple days ago I went in the app to use the remote and the feature had been totally locked behind the "access local networks & devices" permission... This permission was never needed in the past 3 years yet now it's necessary for the same functionality. So, I disconnected the TV from the i…
Wouldn't it make sense for a remote control to need to access local network & devices? Like, without this permission, the only way the controller would work is through a cloud service, so I would personally be pretty happy to discover the app requests this permission, as it would likely mean the app will keep working when LG inevitably shuts down their cloud server...