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Re: YouTube's CEO limits his kids' social media use – other tech bosses do the same

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Post by Quothling »

amelius wrote: post #58
mattgreenrocks wrote: post #4

All ages benefit from time-limited exposure to social media. We have a term for it now: brainrot. Fully convinced it is the cigarettes of our generation: ubiquitous enough to be pervasive despite negative externalities.

In schools there should be a class about safe internet use and it should be mandatory to write an essay about the benefits children get personally from using social media as well as the downsides.

There has been for like 15 years. At least around here, well withouth the essay. I'm not sure what the essay would do, it would be written by a LLM anyway. Don't worry, LLM usage and risks is the next class we're beginning to teach as a society. Of course my own generation won't get that, so we're going to be fun "boomers" that way.

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Post by fullshark »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #47
websiteapi wrote: post #22

It’s not just about limiting - why don’t these people make it easier on the apps themselves to do it? We know why.

It’s more convenient to use Apple’s parental control feature because you can set limits in one place.

My kid found work arounds for that. For example she reset the ipad's clock to give herself more time. It really is like a drug to these children and they will lash out at you if you take it away.

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Post by concinds »

mattgreenrocks wrote: post #4

All ages benefit from time-limited exposure to social media. We have a term for it now: brainrot. Fully convinced it is the cigarettes of our generation: ubiquitous enough to be pervasive despite negative externalities.

I think it’s a mistake to put even teen social media use in the same category as screens for young kids, and I suspect most problems are from the latter.

3 things should be studied: screens for kids (regardless of app), short-form video for teens, and non-short-form peer-group social media (what teens had from 2008-2015 or so). I bet we’ll see very different impacts from each.

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Post by orochimaaru »

Screen time features exist on most devices. Parents - please set them up. It doesn’t take a lot of effort. I limit my kids for 1/2 hr of screen time per day. I exclude apps like iMessage, phone and maps.

Yeah - they do ask for more time here and there. But it’s pretty well controlled and they adjust to it

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Post by Amezarak »

pj_mukh wrote: post #6

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This is a cop out.

You don’t have to put your kids in front of a TV or tablet. You can simply establish boundaries and leave them to themselves. They will engage in imaginative play for hours on end just like kids have for thousands of years.

Source: my kids have been doing it since 5AM while I lay in bed sick.

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Post by OccamsMirror »

Thorrez wrote: post #43
Pooge wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

>“We do limit their time on YouTube and other platforms and other forms of media. On weekdays we tend to be more strict, on weekends we tend to be less so. We’re not perfect by any stretch,” >He stressed “everything in moderation” is what works best for him and his wife, and that extends to other online services and platforms. >YouTube’s former CEO Susan Wojcicki, also barred her children from browsing videos on the…

My kids aren’t allowed on YouTube. I run a local system that mirrors approved channels to our home server and serves them through Plex. Creators lose ad revenue; that’s unfortunate. The alternative was nonstop ads on children’s content and a recommendation system pushing garbage. That trade-off was unacceptable.

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Post by OccamsMirror »

techblueberry wrote: post #26
Pooge wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

Although I hate social media with a passion and would be fine if the government banned it outright, I don’t think this is a fair reading. Do toy manufacturers let their kids play with their toys 24 hours a day and not go outside or do homework? Video game devs? Parents are supposed to help their kids limit their time in everything. ‘He stressed “everything in moderation”’

> Do toy manufacturers let their kids play with their toys 24 hours a day and not go outside or do homework?

I bet toy manufacturers have never had to think: "is this toy bad for my child's development?"

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Post by exe34 »

lesuorac wrote: post #28
Pooge wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their point is that despite being the designers of such systems, they prevent their own children from using them. Akin to a drug dealer not consuming what he sells.

I would expect an x-ray technician to limit their kid's time in x-rays. It doesn't mean kids should never get an x-ray. Sometimes moderation means complete abstinence but generally not.

could you highlight what in the original article made you think they were banning their kids from social media entirely? or were you trying to explain something else?

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Post by noahjk »

concinds wrote: post #64
mattgreenrocks wrote: post #4

All ages benefit from time-limited exposure to social media. We have a term for it now: brainrot. Fully convinced it is the cigarettes of our generation: ubiquitous enough to be pervasive despite negative externalities.

I think it’s a mistake to put even teen social media use in the same category as screens for young kids, and I suspect most problems are from the latter. 3 things should be studied: screens for kids (regardless of app), short-form video for teens, and non-short-form peer-group social media (what teens had from 2008-2015 or so). I bet we’ll see very different impacts from each.

> I think it’s a mistake to put even teen social media use in the same category as screens for young kids

Dangerous for different reasons. Unregulated screen time for young kids teaches their brain to expect stimulation at all times, and will usually increase their discomfort when they don't have it.

We try really hard to limit screen time to a couple times a week for max 30-45 minutes. Nothing saddens me more than seeing a totally content kid in public being sat down and handed a screen as the default (because it's 'easier' for the parent), depriving them of enjoying the world. Also see a lot of young kids who will cry and cry until they get it.

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