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Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by dekhn »

Sevii wrote: post #17
dannyobrien wrote: post #11

The odd thing about all of this (well, I guess it's not odd, just ironic), is that when Google AdWords started, one of the notable things about it was that anyone could start serving or buying ads. You just needed a credit-card. I think that bought Google a lot of credibility (along with the ads being text-only) as they entered an already disreputable space: ordinary users and small businesses felt they were getting…

That has definitely changed. Google AdWords today is one of the most unfriendly services to onboard I've ever encountered. Signing up is trivial, setting up your first ad is easy, then you instantly get banned. Appeals do nothing. You essentially have to hire a professional just to use it.

The thing to understand about google services is that they see so much spam and abuse that it's easier for them to just assume you are a spammer rather than a legitimate customer, unless you go through other channels to establish yourself.

Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by avereveard »

plaidfuji wrote: post #38

> The “Set up billing” link kicked me out of Google AI Studio and into Google Cloud Console, and my heart sank. Every time I’ve logged into Google Cloud Console or AWS, I’ve wasted hours upon hours reading outdated documentation, gazing in despair at graphs that make no sense, going around in circles from dashboard to dashboard, and feeling a strong desire to attain freedom from this mortal coil. 100% agree

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Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by pooper »

sh34r wrote: post #60
cortesoft wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have had way too many arguments over the years with product and sales people at my job on the importance of instant self-signup. I want to be able to just pay and go, without having to talk to people or wait for things. I know part of it is that sales wants to be able to price discriminate and wants to be able to use their sales skills on a customer, but I am never going to sign up for anything that makes me talk t…

> I know part of it is that sales wants to be able to price discriminate and wants to be able to use their sales skills on a customer You say that as if it isn’t the entire reason why these interactions should be avoided at all costs. Dynamic pricing should be a crime.

> You say that as if it isn’t the entire reason why these interactions should be avoided at all costs. Dynamic pricing should be a crime.

Does segmentation also count as dynamic pricing?

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Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by yawnxyz »

obmelvin wrote: post #43

I don't understand the multiple posts / comments I've seen about this. I google `gemini API key` and the first result* is this docs page: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/api-key That docs page has a link in the first primary section on the page. Sure, it could be a huge CTA, but this is a docs page, so it's kinda nice that it's not gone through a marketing make over. * besides sponsored result for AI Studio (Ma…

I've to this day never been able to pay for Gemini through the API, even though I've tried maybe 6-7 times

If you bring it up to Logan he'll just brush it off — I honestly don't know if they test these UX flows with their own personal accounts, or if something is buggy with my account.

Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by jpollock »

There is a lot of fraud with UPI, specifically social engineering to obtain UPI OTP codes.

Since the card and the account haven't been previously associated, that's probably a risk model saying a human needs to verify the account before activation.

Indian cards also (I believe) have a mandatory 24 notice period prior to money being pulled - giving fraudsters a 24 hour starting gun to spend like crazy. That makes merchants that provide variable cost service on credit products twitchy.

https://support.stripe.com/questions/background-on-indian-go...

Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by dugidugout »

malfist wrote: post #56
politelemon wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this same thing and this was my first result too. I am just not seeing how the author ended up where they did, unless knowing how to use Google search is not a core skill.

I did notice in their post instead of searching for answers, they asked Gemini how to do things, and when that didn't work, they asked Claude. I often see coworkers offload their work of critical thinking to an AI to give them answers instead doing the grunt work nessecary to find their answers on their own.

This rhetoric worries me. If you insist on degrading others at least fix it to something like:

> [They seemingly] can't think on their own without an AI [moderating]

They _literally_ can think on their own, and they _literally_ did think up a handful of prompts.

A more constructive way to make what I assume to be your point would be highlighting why this shift is meaningful and leaving the appeal to ego for yourself.

Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by horaceradish »

postsantum wrote: post #45

Congrats, you have sampled the life of android developer. I've been avoiding touching Gemini exactly for the reason "Your account is in good standing. For now". When it's not, enjoy your ban for life

Apple as well. Apple developer sign up refuses to accept my government issued ID.

So fuck them, I decided. Sold all my Apple hardware but phone and watch. Downgraded phone to basic bitch when my last one died

Re: Getting a Gemini API key is an exercise in frustration

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Post by xboxnolifes »

sh34r wrote: post #60
cortesoft wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have had way too many arguments over the years with product and sales people at my job on the importance of instant self-signup. I want to be able to just pay and go, without having to talk to people or wait for things. I know part of it is that sales wants to be able to price discriminate and wants to be able to use their sales skills on a customer, but I am never going to sign up for anything that makes me talk t…

> I know part of it is that sales wants to be able to price discriminate and wants to be able to use their sales skills on a customer You say that as if it isn’t the entire reason why these interactions should be avoided at all costs. Dynamic pricing should be a crime.

Pricing tiers are a form of dynamic pricing. Service free tiers basically couldn't exist without dynamic pricing, as they are subsidized by the paying tiers.
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