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Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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williamstein wrote: post #10
embedding-shape wrote: post #4

Look interesting, eager to play around with it! Devstral was a neat model when it released and one of the better ones to run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this, so gonna be interesting to see if Devstral 2 can replace it. I'm a bit saddened by the name of the CLI tool, which to me implies the intended usage. "Vibe-coding" is a fun exercise to realize where models go wrong, but for…

Their new CLI agent tool [1] is written in Python unlike similar agents from Anthropic/Google (Typescript/Bun) and OpenAI (Rust). It also appears to have first class ACP support, where ACP is the new protocol from Zed [2]. [1] https://github.com/mistralai/mistral-vibe [2] https://zed.dev/acp

> Their new CLI agent tool [1] is written in

This is exactly the CLI I'm referring to, whose name implies it's for playing around with "vibe-coding", instead of helping professional developers produce high quality code. It's the opposite of what I and many others are looking for.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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pdntspa wrote: post #19
embedding-shape wrote: post #4

Look interesting, eager to play around with it! Devstral was a neat model when it released and one of the better ones to run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this, so gonna be interesting to see if Devstral 2 can replace it. I'm a bit saddened by the name of the CLI tool, which to me implies the intended usage. "Vibe-coding" is a fun exercise to realize where models go wrong, but for…

> But where are the professional tools, meant to be used for people who don't want to do vibe-coding, but be heavily assisted by LLMs? Something that is meant to augment the human intellect, not replace it? Claude Code not good enough for ya?

Claude Code has absolutely zero features that help me review code or do anything else than vibe-coding and accept changes as they come in. We need diff-comparisons between different executions, tailored TUI for that kind of work and more. Claude Code is basically a MVP of that.

Still, I do use Claude Code and Codex daily as there is nothing better out there currently. But they still feel tailored towards vibe-coding instead of professional development.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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johanvts wrote: post #8
embedding-shape wrote: post #4

Look interesting, eager to play around with it! Devstral was a neat model when it released and one of the better ones to run locally for agentic coding. Nowadays I mostly use GPT-OSS-120b for this, so gonna be interesting to see if Devstral 2 can replace it. I'm a bit saddened by the name of the CLI tool, which to me implies the intended usage. "Vibe-coding" is a fun exercise to realize where models go wrong, but for…

Did you try Aider?

I did, although a long time ago, so maybe I need to try it again. But it still seems to be stuck in a chat-like interface instead of something tailored to software development. Think IDE but better.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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simonw wrote: post #33

llm install llm-mistral llm mistral refresh llm -m mistral/devstral-2512 "Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle" https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D... Pretty good for a 123B model! (That said I'm not 100% certain I guessed the correct model ID, I asked Mistral here: https://x.com/simonw/status/1998435424847675429 )

Is it really an svg if it’s just embedded base64 of a jpg

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by jedisct1 »

Lapel2742 wrote: post #53
jedisct1 wrote: post #30

Yet another CLI. Why does every AI provider need to have its own tool, instead of contributing to existing tools like Roo Code or Opencode?

My 2ct: Because providers want to make their model run optimally and maybe some of them try to build a moat.

> providers want to make their model run optimally

Because they couldn't do it by contributing to existing opensource tools?

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by pzo »

kevin061 wrote: post #14

I am very disappointed they don't have an equivalent subscription for coding to the 200 EUR ChatGPT or Claude one, and it is only available for Enterprise deployments. The only thing I found is a pay-as-you-go API, but I wonder if it is any good (and cost-effective) vs Claude et al.

> Devstral 2 is currently offered free via our API. After the free period, the API pricing will be $0.40/$2.00 per million tokens (input/output) for Devstral 2

With pricing so low I don't see any reason why someone would buy sub for 200 EUR. These days those subs are so much limited in Claude Code or Cursor than it used to be (or used to unlimited). Better pay-as-you-go especially when there are days when you probably use AI less or not at all (weekends/holidays etc.) as long as those credits don't expire.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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Post by kevin061 »

pzo wrote: post #67
kevin061 wrote: post #14

I am very disappointed they don't have an equivalent subscription for coding to the 200 EUR ChatGPT or Claude one, and it is only available for Enterprise deployments. The only thing I found is a pay-as-you-go API, but I wonder if it is any good (and cost-effective) vs Claude et al.

> Devstral 2 is currently offered free via our API. After the free period, the API pricing will be $0.40/$2.00 per million tokens (input/output) for Devstral 2 With pricing so low I don't see any reason why someone would buy sub for 200 EUR. These days those subs are so much limited in Claude Code or Cursor than it used to be (or used to unlimited). Better pay-as-you-go especially when there are days when you probabl…

True, I just wish I could pay once for code AND the chat, but the chat subscription does not include Code sadly.

Re: Mistral releases Devstral2 and Mistral Vibe CLI

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poszlem wrote: post #12
tucnak wrote: post #2

I'm so glad Mistral never sold out. We're really lucky to have them in the EU at the time when we're so focused on mil-tech etc.

They’ll switch to military tech the second it becomes necessary, don’t kid yourself. I’m just glad we have a European alternative for the day the US decides to turn its back on us. This tech is simply too critical to pretend the military won’t use it. That’s clearer now than ever, especially after the (so far flop-ish) launch of the U.S. military’s own genAI platform.

> I’m just glad we have a European alternative for the day the US decides to turn its back on us

Not sure you've kept up to date, US have turned their backs on most allies so far including Europe and the EU, and now welcome previous enemies with open arms.

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