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Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#61
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No benchmarks. No FLOPs. No comparison to commodity hardware. I hate the cloud servers. "9 is faster than 8 which is faster than 7 which is faster than 6, ..., which is faster than 1, which has unknown performance".

Who exactly believes manufacturer benchmarks? Just go run your benchmarks yourself and pick. Price/performance is a workload thing.

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#62
post #55
post #36

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Not true at all. Single thread CPU scores for Graviton2 are about half that of Intel, while only being about 20% cheaper at best.

Do you realize we're talking about Graviton5 now?

The Graviton5 instances I've been comparing to intel are the same price...

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#63
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not true at all. Single thread CPU scores for Graviton2 are about half that of Intel, while only being about 20% cheaper at best.

Groan. Yes, absolutely true. While I know this thread will turn into some noisy whack-a-mole bit of nonsense, an easy comparison is the c8g.2xlarge vs the c8i.2xlarge. The former is Graviton 4 vs Granite Rapids in the latter. Otherwise both 16GB, 15Gbps networking, and both are compute optimized, 8 vCPU machines. Performance is very similar. Indeed, since you herald the ffmpeg result elsewhere the Graviton machine be…

Groan. Absolutely not. :)

c8g passmark score: 1853 c8i passmark score: 3008

I guess the fps column isn't a good representation of single thread score. Also looking at the passmark scores for i4i vs i4g, i4g is about 1k and intel is about 2k, and the more modern Graviton equivalent of i4 is the same price, so...

https://go.runs-on.com/instances/ec2/c8g

https://go.runs-on.com/instances/ec2/c8i

https://go.runs-on.com/instances/ec2/i4g

https://go.runs-on.com/instances/ec2/i4i

Silly amazon.

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#64

Pricing when? :( https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/on-demand/

https://instances.vantage.sh/ recently added alerts for any pricing changes on EC2, including newly launching new instances. The site rebuilds every 4 hours so it usually breaks the pricing news first. I have it on for myself and its super helpful just to see when AWS changes things. [Disclaimer, I'm CEO of Vantage - the company that maintains the site]

FYI, it's been almost two years since us-east-1-chi-2 launched and it's still missing on the site. Any reason for this? Kind of feels like local zones are a 2nd class citizen even at AWS itself.

Thank you for maintaining this, I do use it every few months at $DAYJOB and it's quite useful for my capacity/deployment planning.

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#65
post #63

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Groan. Yes, absolutely true. While I know this thread will turn into some noisy whack-a-mole bit of nonsense, an easy comparison is the c8g.2xlarge vs the c8i.2xlarge. The former is Graviton 4 vs Granite Rapids in the latter. Otherwise both 16GB, 15Gbps networking, and both are compute optimized, 8 vCPU machines. Performance is very similar. Indeed, since you herald the ffmpeg result elsewhere the Graviton machine be…

Groan. Absolutely not. :) c8g passmark score: 1853 c8i passmark score: 3008 I guess the fps column isn't a good representation of single thread score. Also looking at the passmark scores for i4i vs i4g, i4g is about 1k and intel is about 2k, and the more modern Graviton equivalent of i4 is the same price, so... https://go.runs-on.com/instances/ec2/c8g https://go.runs-on.com/instances/ec2/c8i https://go.runs-on.com/in…

So confident. And exactly the whack-a-mole nonsense I predicted.

See the comment by electroly. They actually know what they're talking about.

See, the FPS score is for the whole machine. The c8g gives you 8 real cores. The C8i gives you 4 real cores, 4 hyperthreading pseudo-cores. So for those two machines the c8g unequivocally gives you more absolute computing performance, regardless of the passmark single thread (on a single core) on the c8i being better than a single core on the c8g. And the c8g comes at a big discount as well.

That's...the point. The Graviton processors are cheaper per core, and lower performance per core, and you make it up in bulk. You get more performance per $ if you're okay with the ARM stack and your software is good with it, and this is basically universally true comparing Graviton instances versus Intel/AMD alternatives.

You're wrong. Maybe cite some other random nonsense now?

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

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post #51

No benchmarks. No FLOPs. No comparison to commodity hardware. I hate the cloud servers. "9 is faster than 8 which is faster than 7 which is faster than 6, ..., which is faster than 1, which has unknown performance".

Since it will be a virtual machine, its performance can be arbitrarily reduced.

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#67
post #59
post #51

No benchmarks. No FLOPs. No comparison to commodity hardware. I hate the cloud servers. "9 is faster than 8 which is faster than 7 which is faster than 6, ..., which is faster than 1, which has unknown performance".

You need to benchmark a new EC2 instance anyway. If it’s out of spec, burn it down and redeploy.

Why is that needed, and how would you know if it’s out of spec?

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#68

>Best price performance Don't they still offer free nano EC2s? This is not a better price than $0.

The free tier for EC2 expires after a year, and the eligible t-family instances have low resources and extreme CPU throttling if you try to do anything more serious with them.

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

#69

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You missed the touch of sarcasm. It's a joke, recent AWS announcements have been heavily AI-focused.

I don't really see how this is a productive comment for the article. Most of big tech focuses on AI and those typically get traction in the news. AWS specically has plenty of non-AI announcements: https://aws.amazon.com/new/ Parent comment made a low quality joke that lacked substance.

I think that is a joke that reflects pretty well the feeling of many people (me included) that miss the ten years ago AWS and their ability to amaze us with solutions for practical problems, instead of marketing claims on PowerPoints.

Re: Amazon EC2 M9g Instances

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Are the built in AWS cost monitoring tools so bad that multiple businesses( including yours) exist just to monitor cost externally ? Or is your value proposition for companies that use a bunch of different cloud providers ?

[Not a sales pitch - just answering the questions] This AWS EC2 site is just an open-source project and site we maintain for the benefit of the community. So it's not directly our business but it promotes our brand and is just a helpful site that I think should exist. It's very popular and has been around for about 15 years now. Our main business hosted on the main domain of https://www.vantage.sh/ is around cloud co…

No shame in a sales pitch as long as it's transparent!

I think I see the value here. In any large organization seeing where 100% of your cloud spending is going becomes a time consuming task unto itself.

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