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Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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Post by prophesi »

parineum wrote: post #38
thot_experiment wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly recommend the website "youtube.com" there's a lot of content on there that's excellent. I am never for want of something to watch, it sort of seems like an absolute golden age of content production to me.

I'm trying to watch long form cinematic content, not a 10 minute diy video for turning my toaster into a flamethrower with three minutes of ads and "smash that like button" interspersed. There wre a few YouTube channels I like but they are all educational where one guy talks to the camera about a thing. Is there decent fiction on YouTube? I haven't seen any.

I think that's more of an issue of discovery. If I wanted decent fiction, I would actually prefer Apple's catalogue of Sci-Fi shows over anything I can find on Netflix these days. While with Youtube, you can find hidden gems outside their algorithm. In fact, I'd recommend not abiding by the algorithm of any platform and seek outside sources for finding shows you'd enjoy. Each platform has the same goal to retain your attention.

Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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Post by thot_experiment »

parineum wrote: post #38
thot_experiment wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I highly recommend the website "youtube.com" there's a lot of content on there that's excellent. I am never for want of something to watch, it sort of seems like an absolute golden age of content production to me.

I'm trying to watch long form cinematic content, not a 10 minute diy video for turning my toaster into a flamethrower with three minutes of ads and "smash that like button" interspersed. There wre a few YouTube channels I like but they are all educational where one guy talks to the camera about a thing. Is there decent fiction on YouTube? I haven't seen any.

Get adblock and sponsorblock, or just yt-dlp it and let it cut out all the cruft, watching youtube with the callouts and sponsor segements left in sucks but we have the technology to solve the problem. I would believe there's good long form fiction content, I've listened to fiction podcasts with sound effects so there's at least that. I mostly watch multiple hour long non-fiction content so there's definitely lots of long form available, but I'm not sure how much fiction there is.

Re: Warner Bros Begins Exclusive Deal Talks With Netflix

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Post by testdelacc1 »

karel-3d wrote: post #42
shubhamjain wrote: post #13

Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount. I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.

I wonder if the Ellisons win either way

- any merger they propose will be greenlit by the Trump administration, giving them an advantage. The seller prefers them because the transaction is far more likely to go through.

- Netflix is interested exclusively in the assets and the studio, not in legacy assets like CNN. So Netflix is bidding for that alone. The Ellisons see themselves as recreating the Murdoch playbook. They already control CBS. Even if Netflix succeeds in buying HBO, the Ellisons can pick up CNN later and create a right wing news empire to rival Fox News.

HBO is a nice prize, especially with the prestige and popularity of its content library. But the Ellisons win no matter what.

For viewers and voters I don’t see a win here. HBO production gets Netflix-ified. Say goodbye to quality shows like The Pitt and prepare to welcome streaming-while-scrolling shows like Emily in Paris. And simultaneously you’ll have the Ellisons telling large parts of the population what they’re supposed to think.

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Post by Flatcircle »

karel-3d wrote: post #42
shubhamjain wrote: post #13

Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount. I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.

Anyone that thinks Netflix buying WB would be better than the Ellisons knows nothing about the media business. Look at what James Cameron said about it last week, everyone prefers the Ellisons over Netflix because Netflix actively wants to kill the theatrical and physical media businesses

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Post by troupo »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #50
troupo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Disney? Meh - they've got Andor and that's really it. Disney owns so much content, IP and nostalgia that they don't care much.

Pretty sure their shareholders care. Their market cap is at pre 2019 levels. Their earnings are back to 2014 levels. https://companiesmarketcap.com/walt-disney/earnings/ Meanwhile, Netflix is up $300B since 2019. And Netflix’s earnings are about to surpass Disney’s: https://companiesmarketcap.com/netflix/earnings/ And Netflix has 13,000 employees, while Disney has 233,000.

> And Netflix has 13,000 employees, while Disney has 233,000.

And Disney is significantly more than just a single streaming service struggling to get content.

Their Direct-to-Consumer business (aka Netflix equivalent) posted a net profit increase 9.5x year on year (from 143 million to 1.3 billion) and has more than half the number of Netflix subscribers (196 million vs. 300+ million) in significantly shorter time than Netflix. https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the-walt-disney-company-rep...

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Post by mortsnort »

silisili wrote: post #35

I'm rather curious why they even want HBO. Yes HBO has had far, far more quality programs over the years, but it's not like Netflix hasn't had ample time and infinite money to do the same if they wanted to. Would be a sad day. I typically equate HBO content with focused quality, and Netflix content as the opposite.

Netflix paid $500M for the rights to Seinfeld for 5 years to give you an idea of what people are using Netflix for. Why make new content when you can sell old content?

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Post by spooky_deep »

another_twist wrote: post #51
shubhamjain wrote: post #13

Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

Trash ? The Diplomat has as good a production value as any. So does Bridgerton. Adolescence is basically a single shot marvel. Others - Stranger Things, Money Heist, Black Doves. Not to mention their true crime documentaries. Warner Brothers makes quality content. I think this is an almost perfect fit.

None of those are close to peak HBO content sorry.

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Post by boogieknite »

shubhamjain wrote: post #13

Could there be a worse news regarding where content production is headed? Netflix production is trash and all they care is about metrics like viewers who have watched at least x% of certain content. Cuz if they have, and they accumulate y minutes of viewing, they are unlikely to cancel. This is to the point that they are exclusively making dumbed-down content that can be good background noise while viewers scroll thr…

maybe things have changed but Netflix has thrown mindblowing amounts at famous people like Howard and Fincher. makes me the slightly hopeful we see another production from the twisted mind of Larry David. or at least the release of his cancelled doc

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Post by Raztuf »

Flatcircle wrote: post #64
karel-3d wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer Netflix to Oracle-ied Paramount. I don't want Ellisons to own more than they do. Netflix is boring, Ellisons are evil.

Anyone that thinks Netflix buying WB would be better than the Ellisons knows nothing about the media business. Look at what James Cameron said about it last week, everyone prefers the Ellisons over Netflix because Netflix actively wants to kill the theatrical and physical media businesses

Mainstream physical media is already dead.
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