Why in 2025 can we not ship a statically typed high performance language for browsers?
It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
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Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#62They now have GoFundMe where they are soliciting donations for a discovery phase of a patent trademark cancellation request. They have just 50k USD out of 200k USD they are raising. (No idea if that's appropriate; from the outside, it seems like a lot of money, but also they are fighting Oracle which has unlimited money, so, yeah) For some reason it's not linked in the page itself. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-us-…
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Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#63Why in 2025 can we not ship a statically typed high performance language for browsers?
Because there is no consensus on what that should be, and vendors have so little motivation they just outsource most browser development to Google.
Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#64"If you do not act, we will challenge your ownership by filing a petition for cancellation with the USPTO."
So, just go ahead and do it already. Your cute letter isn't going to change anything.
Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#65Speaking of JavaScript's evolution - I've been building a music player (muz11.com) and it's remarkable how far we've come. The Web Audio API, MediaSession for lock screen controls, smooth animations via requestAnimationFrame... all running client-side with no framework, just vanilla JS. Thirty years ago this would have required a desktop app and probably a record label deal.
The irony is that 'freeing' JavaScript from Oracle's trademark might matter less than freeing ourselves from the framework churn. The platform itself is incredibly capable now.
Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#66I actually think that people should rather use EcmaScript name instead of JavaScript, because it's a way better name (much less confusing, given that this lang doesn't have anything to do with Java anyway). I wish Oracle started suing people to force everyone to use the better name.
Our trade has a solid tradition of terrible names for programming languages. They are ALL bad. The whole Ekmuhscrip.js schism fits perfectly. Yes, this is our circus, and these are our monkeys.
But some of us get to be pretty looking penguins in this circus of ours.
Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#67Why in 2025 can we not ship a statically typed high performance language for browsers?
Rust runs quite well today via WebAssembly. Continuing to improve interop between Web API / WASM / language runtimes seems like a good route that allows people to use the language they prefer against shared Web APIs.
Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#68They now have GoFundMe where they are soliciting donations for a discovery phase of a patent trademark cancellation request. They have just 50k USD out of 200k USD they are raising. (No idea if that's appropriate; from the outside, it seems like a lot of money, but also they are fighting Oracle which has unlimited money, so, yeah) For some reason it's not linked in the page itself. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-us-…
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Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#69Why is this worth doing? What wrong with the status quo? The author does not give any examples of Oracle threatening people for using the JavaScript (tm) name.
Re: It’s time to free JavaScript (2024)
#70Official name is ECMAScript. Maybe it's time to drop "Javascript".