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'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bronze plan is shitty catastrophic insurance at like 5x the actuarial cost to try to fund risk pool and all the mandated benefits thst the o/p alluded to

Can you explain what these mandated benefits you think shouldn't be covered?

Off the top of my head maternity/neonatal/family planning type of benefits are mandatory for obamacare compliant plans. That essentially outlawed all the affordable young adult catastrophic plans.

Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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I was paying around $1200/month last year (a little under that with subsidy). This year I'm paying $2100/month for a family of five, on a roughly equivalent plan. Except, none of the options in my state allow me to visit the PCP I switched to this year (since none of the plans last year covered my PCP from the year before). So I guess I'm on a primary care physician merry go round :D I am at least able to have my mai…

Excuse me, but how in the world were you able to afford 1200/month, you know that's like cheap rent right?

My Employer sponsored supposedly nice insurance (I say supposedly because they keep being a pain in the ass for pretty much everything) is $200+ per paycheck for me and my spouse, i.e. ~$450/month. That is after my employer covers most of the cost. This stuff is ridiculous.

Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's always cost ~$2k a month, the only difference is the previous administration thought everyone else should be "temporarily" paying for her plan. I feel like we need a perpetual PSA here that moving money from person A to person B obviously doesn't make anything cheaper.

> the previous administration thought everyone should be "temporarily" paying for her plan. Moving money from person A to person B obviously doesn't make anything cheaper No, but it means I can't pay for a first-class ticket while someone else survives. I'll take that deal.

It doesn't add to the discussion, but an anonymous upvote wouldn't convey my appreciation for how apropos this comment is.

Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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I was paying around $1200/month last year (a little under that with subsidy). This year I'm paying $2100/month for a family of five, on a roughly equivalent plan. Except, none of the options in my state allow me to visit the PCP I switched to this year (since none of the plans last year covered my PCP from the year before). So I guess I'm on a primary care physician merry go round :D I am at least able to have my mai…

Excuse me, but how in the world were you able to afford 1200/month, you know that's like cheap rent right?

That’s absolutely not an exception.

I’m in Germany, and for a family of four, the public healthcare system, covering my wife and my two kids costs us around 2,200€ per month. The company pays half.

A switch to a private insurance would lower the costs around half.

Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Excuse me, but how in the world were you able to afford 1200/month, you know that's like cheap rent right?

If you're getting health insurance through your employer, that's a pretty standard price (counting both your contribution and your employer's together). I'm probably going to be self employed for 2026 and a cheap-ish (not the cheapest, but probably below the average) plan for my family is going to be a little under $1500 / month. It's pre-tax money, which helps a wee bit, but it is definitely expensive. If I made les…

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Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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>Allen is herself a casualty. While she used to pay $487.50 a month, her new healthcare plan, with reduced coverage, has monthly premiums of $1,967.50. Brutal. Meanwhile the White House calls it all "fake news".

Guy from Poland here. What happened to ObamaCare? I thought you got finally a primary healthcare for all?

Unfortunately not. It's still very broken, and next year it will be worse for a ton of people. I got AI to write a short answer for you:

> Short version: Obamacare never turned into “free primary care for everyone,” it was just a bunch of rules and subsidies bolted onto the same old private-insurance maze. It helped at the margins (more people covered, protections for pre-existing conditions), but premiums/deductibles can still go nuclear if you’re in the wrong income bracket, state, or employer situation. From an EU/Poland perspective it’s not a public health system at all, just a slightly nerfed market where you still get to roll the dice every year.

Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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post #28

I read healthcare now amounts to buying a new car every year. (Except, of course, nothing new in your driveway, nothing to resell, etc.)

This is misleading. Health insurance premiums cost about as much as buying a new car every year. Healthcare is generally on top of those premium payments.

Yep, you and your employer pay $3500/month for the premium. Then you as an individual have a $12k to $15k per year deductible before the insurance even kicks in.

Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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In case you are wandering where the money goes. If you need a gall bladder removed or an appendix removed the bill to you might be $10,000-30,000 but the surgeon, for all of their care and time with you, is compensated less than $100.

I'm confident a surgeon in America is paid more than 100$ for a surgery. They are paid about 400k a year on average. Do the math yourself.

On the other hand you provided no details as to where the money actually goes. It's not a simple proble, and part of the problem is that our doctors are paid a lot more than in peer nations

Re: 'A full-blown crisis': Americans brace for a surge in healthcare costs

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Which are the specific things you think most people don't need coverage for? Prior to the ACA, it was pretty common to hear stories of people not on employer plans who were shocked to discover a coverage gap they have. Most people don't have much expertise in evaluating healthcare coverage and deciding which services they might need.

In California, apparently acupuncture is required to be covered. I’d be happy to give up my acupuncture coverage for a lower premium. https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/payer/states-essential-bene...
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