Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia • Hacker News Board

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by rtkwe » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:48 AM UTC

jMyles wrote: post #21

One thing I haven't seen brought up throughout the dialogue about Wikipedia and bias: Since the entire edit history is available, isn't it possible / practical / probably not crazy hard w/ AI help to build a "dissentipedia", where the articles are built as if various edit wars had gone the other way? I'd certainly read such a thing and compare / contrast it to WikiPedia (particularly when looking for cited primary so…

You'd have to figure out a way to distinguish vanadalism wars from more interpretation oriented edit wars as a starting point.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:49 AM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #39

The need to hate on Grokipedia is weird to me. It’s another site on the web. It’s an experiment with LLMs. Who cares? It can be filled with a bunch of nonsense, whatever. The internet is like that. Maybe it’ll actually become something useful. Or it’ll inspire something useful. Regardless, there’s no such thing as bad publicity, so these articles just give the project airtime. Even commenters here mention they haven’…

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Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by binary132 » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:50 AM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #52

jameslk wrote: post #39

The need to hate on Grokipedia is weird to me. It’s another site on the web. It’s an experiment with LLMs. Who cares? It can be filled with a bunch of nonsense, whatever. The internet is like that. Maybe it’ll actually become something useful. Or it’ll inspire something useful. Regardless, there’s no such thing as bad publicity, so these articles just give the project airtime. Even commenters here mention they haven’…

It’s not the fact that it exists nor is written by AIs, it’s the intent that it should promote Musk’s personal (political) biases instead of seeking out the truth.

unlike the eminently objective and unbiased Wikipedia

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by boxerab » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:50 AM UTC

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #5

CamelCaseName wrote: post #4

This seems like an old article, but probably still true today What I don't get is, why wouldn't Elon just make a good version of Grokipedia. It seems way easier than continually telling his 200MM+ followers how great a deeply broken product is.

It is not possible to make a good version of Grokipedia while satisfying the requirements of its owner, namely to launder ultra-right viewpoints[1]. 1: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/elon-musk/elon-musk-grokipedia-...

can you a) define "ultra-right" viewpoints and b) give some references for these views on Grokipedia ?

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by bilsbie » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:51 AM UTC

ridgeguy wrote: post #43

I've started including a prompt for my AIs instructing them to completely avoid Grokipedia and any results derived therefrom unless otherwise instructed by me.

What information have you found to be incorrect on Grokipedia?

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by mbirth » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:51 AM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #52

jameslk wrote: post #39

The need to hate on Grokipedia is weird to me. It’s another site on the web. It’s an experiment with LLMs. Who cares? It can be filled with a bunch of nonsense, whatever. The internet is like that. Maybe it’ll actually become something useful. Or it’ll inspire something useful. Regardless, there’s no such thing as bad publicity, so these articles just give the project airtime. Even commenters here mention they haven’…

It’s not the fact that it exists nor is written by AIs, it’s the intent that it should promote Musk’s personal (political) biases instead of seeking out the truth.

Do you have any evidence that Grokipedia is actually biased? Most articles are merely their Wikipedia counterpart filtered through the Grok LLM.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by bilsbie » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:52 AM UTC

jMyles wrote: post #21

One thing I haven't seen brought up throughout the dialogue about Wikipedia and bias: Since the entire edit history is available, isn't it possible / practical / probably not crazy hard w/ AI help to build a "dissentipedia", where the articles are built as if various edit wars had gone the other way? I'd certainly read such a thing and compare / contrast it to WikiPedia (particularly when looking for cited primary so…

I had the same idea. I’d imagine you could automate it if you found the right algorithms.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by deeth_starr_v » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:53 AM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #39

The need to hate on Grokipedia is weird to me. It’s another site on the web. It’s an experiment with LLMs. Who cares? It can be filled with a bunch of nonsense, whatever. The internet is like that. Maybe it’ll actually become something useful. Or it’ll inspire something useful. Regardless, there’s no such thing as bad publicity, so these articles just give the project airtime. Even commenters here mention they haven’…

It’s bad faith. It’s ok to deride bad faith slop

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by maxdo » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:53 AM UTC

I know nothing about elon's wikipedia, but...

Wikipedia has increasingly become a commercial project that exploits nationalistic sentiments. Take the Israel-Palestine or Ukraine-Russia conflicts as examples—you'll find completely contradictory articles on the same topics across different language editions, each reflecting opposing viewpoints.

Many of these editors are sponsored by governments, creating an entire ecosystem of smoke and mirrors: information bubbles that reinforce partisan narratives rather than presenting objective truth.

Re: Grokipedia is the antithesis of Wikipedia

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Post by rexpop » Mon, Dec 01, 2025, 2:54 AM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #39

The need to hate on Grokipedia is weird to me. It’s another site on the web. It’s an experiment with LLMs. Who cares? It can be filled with a bunch of nonsense, whatever. The internet is like that. Maybe it’ll actually become something useful. Or it’ll inspire something useful. Regardless, there’s no such thing as bad publicity, so these articles just give the project airtime. Even commenters here mention they haven’…

Grokipedia is a project motivated by personal grudges and political aims, rather than a neutral technical experiment. The broader context is an intensifying campaign against free and open access information by the world's richest man, ie a plutocrat.

This is going to end lives. We cannot afford a plutocracy.