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From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

It's Gila monster venom. You may become a druid while taking it.

Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s miracle drug, I’ve been on it for a few years now, it would have been sooner but usage data wasn’t available at the scale I needed before the ozempic craze. I have hEDS and part of that is ME/CFS and uncontrollable weight gain, so naturally I was looking for help with weight loss with the understanding that drugs that help with weight loss could be treating an underlying mechanisms that was causing the weight ga…

Does having uncontrollable weight gain help you get jacked? Being jacked and fat is tons of fun, better than being skinny.

No, it's the worst, just fat but also because I was dieting so much I couldn't tell if I was tired from not eating enough or if I had ME/CFS. After I gained the weight people would blame my fatigue on me being fat, ignoring that I was fatigued before gaining the weight.

Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

Reminds me of aspirin. It started from willow tree bark thousands of years ago. I'm pretty sure it was not understood for most of that time either.

I wonder when the first person understood how it worked. (if anyone understands it now?)

Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

The Alzheimer """cure""" claim was already disproven by another study. Aside from that, the people who stop taking GLP, 75% gain 50-75% of their bodyweight back and lose all concomitant cardiovascular, cancer etc. risk benefits. No research out on, say, alcoholism yet, but I'd hazard a guess the results are the same. This is not a cravings loss drug but largely a cravings management drug. Which is still pretty great…

Effects on Alzheimer’s have not been disproven; it was shown that there wasn’t a perceivable benefit from oral semaglutide at the doses prescribed for folks with a certain degree of progression of the disease.

Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Obesity is associated with increased rate of migraine, so their symptoms could have gone away by virtue of losing weight. Let's see what it does for non obese.

When I developed pre-diabetes symptoms (having to drink a lot - like 5-6l per day, consequently having to pee a lot, when not doing the first: getting headaches), I noticed that cutting on sugar meant (next to other benefits) that the thirst-induced headaches were the first thing that went away. Not the thirst itself (still have it).

However, not an expert on headaches and can't say if it has anything to do with the migraines in the article. But the point that reducing sugar helps in a myriad of ways, stands and is worth repeating.

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

There is large-enough consensus on this drug for its main use cases (treating diabetes and obesity), but more importantly for this conversation: it's actually quite common for drugs to get new indications after their initial one --- at which point, there might be a new, broader consensus on what the drug is good for. Clinical trials are designed to treat a very specific subclass of individuals; pharmaceutical compani…

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Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

The Alzheimer """cure""" claim was already disproven by another study. Aside from that, the people who stop taking GLP, 75% gain 50-75% of their bodyweight back and lose all concomitant cardiovascular, cancer etc. risk benefits. No research out on, say, alcoholism yet, but I'd hazard a guess the results are the same. This is not a cravings loss drug but largely a cravings management drug. Which is still pretty great…

It should be treated like other important drugs. The U.S. buys the patent (or other variant) letting it become generic

Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

The Alzheimer """cure""" claim was already disproven by another study. Aside from that, the people who stop taking GLP, 75% gain 50-75% of their bodyweight back and lose all concomitant cardiovascular, cancer etc. risk benefits. No research out on, say, alcoholism yet, but I'd hazard a guess the results are the same. This is not a cravings loss drug but largely a cravings management drug. Which is still pretty great…

This is not a cravings loss drug but largely a cravings management drug. Which is still pretty great but it saddles healthcare funding systems with an enormous burden for the next 20 years.

Semaglutide goes off-patent in 2032 in the US, and in 2026 in Canada and China:

https://journals.library.columbia.edu/index.php/stlr/blog/vi...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK602920/table/t03/

Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

Nobody understands why it all helps, they just noticed it does work for something, quickly pushed it to the market first to get patents and get all the profits from it before generics + derivatives hit their pockets. Now, everyone is studying it because there's all new funding coming in for it and finding other versions of it that they can profit off it. Nobody knows what migraine really is, so this isn't a surprise…

Do you know what else stops working if you stop taking the therapy?

Diet and exercise.

Re: From blood sugar to brain relief: GLP-1 therapy slashes migraine frequency

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Is there any good consensus on what the deal is with this drug yet? I don't know how to think about GLP-1. In the headlines it seems like every month it's a miracle cure for something new, yet we don't really understand it? But it seems like just generally...everyone, including me, would benefit from being on it...? The whole thing makes me uneasy but I'm not exactly sure why outside of it seems weird to have one dru…

Nobody understands why it all helps, they just noticed it does work for something, quickly pushed it to the market first to get patents and get all the profits from it before generics + derivatives hit their pockets. Now, everyone is studying it because there's all new funding coming in for it and finding other versions of it that they can profit off it. Nobody knows what migraine really is, so this isn't a surprise…

Benefits of reading, swimming, walking, playing an instrument etc. will go away too if you stop doing that thing.

Biology rarely awards something "forever". Maybe one day we can "fix" obese metabolisms permanently by killing off some receptors etc., but in that case, I would be afraid of intractable long-term effects even more.

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