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Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by mercanlIl »

mothballed wrote: post #55
mercanlIl wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Well yeah of course it's not hard to get involved in politics, if the involvement is supporting people who are rich and powerful even if it is via the use of a more modest looking young mouthpiece. I fail to see how it’d be any more difficult to get involved in politics for candidates that don’t meet this criteria.

You've quoted a single sentence then ignored the second paragraph where I explained things even Jon Stewart famously pointed out: https://youtu.be/SqRt8Lbk5eY?t=387 It's easy to "fail to see" when you do not look.

We appear to be talking about different topics entirely. Your points seem to be about the effectiveness of political involvement, but the comment you’re replying to and the quote I posted relates to political involvement.

It’s encouraging to hear stories about how people get involved. We can learn about the process, network, and have an impact, even if that impact is incremental.

Edit: Clarified, added second paragraph

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by devsda »

jimbob45 wrote: post #56
lacoolj wrote: post #33

> ... and to find out whether things like this happen in other countries as well. I didn't DM anyone, and I didn't run the campaign, but there happened to be the John Edwards campaign HQ near me so I walked inside and said I could help do their IT, next day I was a full-on volunteer. They took me to Charleston for a rally (which was cool cuz I never been) and even got me a jacket with my name and the campaign logo on…

For anyone out of the loop, Edwards was caught in an infidelity scandal and his candidacy collapsed. OP didn’t do such a bad job with IT that the campaign failed lol

> OP didn’t do such a bad job with IT that the campaign failed lol

Some non-tech people tend to think of IT folks as jack of all trades with the ability to fix their faulty printer all the way to hacking email accounts for fun/profit.

I'm sure few of them would have believed that their IT team could have prevented the scandal by some fast & serious typing on the keyboard a.k.a hacking for regular folks :)

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by Loughla »

boodleboodle wrote: post #59
skybrian wrote: post #24

Here is the politician’s Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Jun-seok

This politician is basically a Korean knockoff of Charlie Kirk. In his 40s, touring the country "debating" college kids. Selling middle-school level economic arguments that appeal to online community addicts. Basically a spokesman for the "I tell it like it is" crowd.

When did it become cool for full grown adults to start dunking on college kids?

What is that about? Why do they generally always target college kids for that kind of thing instead of, hell I don't know, nursing homes or construction sites?

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by vkou »

Loughla wrote: post #64
boodleboodle wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This politician is basically a Korean knockoff of Charlie Kirk. In his 40s, touring the country "debating" college kids. Selling middle-school level economic arguments that appeal to online community addicts. Basically a spokesman for the "I tell it like it is" crowd.

When did it become cool for full grown adults to start dunking on college kids? What is that about? Why do they generally always target college kids for that kind of thing instead of, hell I don't know, nursing homes or construction sites?

The first rule of politics is that you don't want to get into fights with people who can beat you.

The second rule of it is that the right questions (have you stopped beating your wife?) can always be spun to make your opponent look like a complete idiot. Always control the framing of a situation.

The third rule of politics is that while intelligent people can see through charades #1 and #2, and if they aren't your target demographic, you don't need to give a shit about what they think.

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by surround »

deaux wrote: post #37
wjsdj2009 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not familiar with the situation you’re referring to, but my experience was different. From my side, the collaboration was positive and genuinely respectful. Just wanted to share another perspective.

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I can't find anything on his Wikipedia article for "English" or "lawyer." Can't we assume good faith?

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by MisterTea »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #20
wjsdj2009 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not familiar with the situation you’re referring to, but my experience was different. From my side, the collaboration was positive and genuinely respectful. Just wanted to share another perspective.

That isn’t necessarily “different”. Someone with truly horrifying opinions can be genuinely respectful and pleasant to work with, unless you fall into the wrong social group. (I know nothing about this guy’s opinions and don’t have much reason to care, either, I just feel the need to point out how people tend to overestimate the alignment between “nice people” and “people I agree with”. Much as they do the one betwee…

> Someone with truly horrifying opinions can be genuinely respectful and pleasant to work with, unless you fall into the wrong social group.

This is how psychopathic tyranny and bullying works "I'm nice and friendly so long as I get my way." I worked with a manager just like this. Super friendly guy until something doesn't go his way and he'll rip you apart in front of everyone. Also the kind of person who manipulates everyone into doing all his work for him while he spent most of his time looking at sports cars and tattooed women on line. Being overly nice and friendly in a position of power is a HUGE red flag for me because it inevitably is a front for manipulation.

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by robocat »

0x1ch wrote: post #43
euroderf wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seconded. Political campaigns are fun. And if you're not sure it's for you, start by volunteering for a local campaign.

I can't wait to volunteer after my 8AM-5PM job at a non-paid position, IN POLITICS!

  From what I could find, working in a presidential campaign is mostly volunteer-based and pretty much full-time.
  It sounded fun and like an incredible experience, but I was already working full-time and didn’t have that kind of availability. So I politely declined.
- JP Jeon (Jeon Jeong-pyo)

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by surround »

rafram wrote: post #60
hitekker wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have links to back up your claims? The only context I have is that the OP helped a right-of-center political candidate in his country of origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Jun-seok

Where does it talk about his use of English or his lawyers?

Re: I DM'd a Korean presidential candidate and ended up building his core campaign

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Post by throwaway29812 »

jimbob45 wrote: post #56
lacoolj wrote: post #33

> ... and to find out whether things like this happen in other countries as well. I didn't DM anyone, and I didn't run the campaign, but there happened to be the John Edwards campaign HQ near me so I walked inside and said I could help do their IT, next day I was a full-on volunteer. They took me to Charleston for a rally (which was cool cuz I never been) and even got me a jacket with my name and the campaign logo on…

For anyone out of the loop, Edwards was caught in an infidelity scandal and his candidacy collapsed. OP didn’t do such a bad job with IT that the campaign failed lol

> infidelity scandal

Seems quaint these days.

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