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Re: Orion 1.0

#61

Post by rdg1991 » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:25 PM UTC

I love Orion, but it's pretty unusable with 1Password set up - delay on keyboard input is unbearable with the extension enabled and it slows everything down significantly. I just ran a few benchmarks with BrowserBench Speedometer:

1Password extension disabled: 17

1Password extension enabled: 10 (and the test takes much longer)

Vivaldi with extension enabled: 25

I really, really want to move back to Orion as my daily driver but as a pretty heavy 1Password user this is absolutely a dealbreaker.

Re: Orion 1.0

#62

Post by forgotpwd16 » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:26 PM UTC

>While doing so, it expands Kagi ecosystem of privacy-respecting, user-centric products (that we have begun fondly naming “Kagiverse”) to now include: Search, Assistant, Browser, Translate, News with more to come.

Are people really interested in those other than Search?

>A bold technical choice: WebKit, not another Chromium clone

Only real choice for iOS so not sure what the bold choice is for an Apple-centric browser.

Re: Orion 1.0

#63

Post by darkwater » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:26 PM UTC

dinodev90 wrote: post #44

darkwater wrote: post #5

Downloaded the dmg/installer (not from the App Store), launched it and I get Update Error! An error occurred while parsing the update feed. [ Cancel Update ] and clicking the button it exists, and that's it. Disappointing for a 1.0 release. Maybe it's related to PiHole? I'm on MacOS 26.1

Orion Tech Lead here: Thank you for your patience — the issue has now been fixed. Please try updating now :)

Yep, now it works! Nice intro video, but I would have made the Chrome planet more Death Star!

Re: Orion 1.0

#64

Post by dani_kagi » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:28 PM UTC

bobbylarrybobby wrote: post #25

I'd love to use Orion but it's just too buggy for me. I downloaded the iOS app to try it out and immediately noticed that when typing in the URL bar, three quarters of it is covered by the toolbar above the keyboard.

I've seen similar issues with Japanese keyboards. If you can please share some details on your setup here or on orionfeedback.org so we can investigate further. Thank you.

Re: Orion 1.0

#65

Post by colinmarc » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:28 PM UTC

rdg1991 wrote: post #61

I love Orion, but it's pretty unusable with 1Password set up - delay on keyboard input is unbearable with the extension enabled and it slows everything down significantly. I just ran a few benchmarks with BrowserBench Speedometer: 1Password extension disabled: 17 1Password extension enabled: 10 (and the test takes much longer) Vivaldi with extension enabled: 25 I really, really want to move back to Orion as my daily…

I opened this link intending to post exactly this. 1Password is just extremely broken on Orion. It's a testament to how much I like the browser that I'm still using it despite that (and despite the fact that Github was completely broken on Webkit this summer, but that's not Orion's fault).

Re: Orion 1.0

#66

Post by luma » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:33 PM UTC

z64 wrote: post #46

barnabee wrote: post #15

I like the direction and keep checking in on it, but while Orion remains closed source there's no chance of it ever being more than a curiosity for me.

(I work at Kagi, but do not work on Orion) There's a lot of different reasons that people ask for open sourcing of Orion / software in general; could I ask you to expand a bit more as to which issues being open source would address for you? I can assume of course, but I'd rather listen to you articulate it, even if it's usual reasons.

Single word answer: trust.

Y’all seem like nice people but trust isn’t automatic these days.

Re: Orion 1.0

#67

Post by danielhep » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:33 PM UTC

I want to be able to sync Orion with Firefox. I use non Apple operating systems on some computers, and I would love to have Orion sync with Firefox on them.

Re: Orion 1.0

#68

Post by Alifatisk » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:33 PM UTC

”We have officially started development on Orion for Windows, with a target release scheduled for late 2026”

Fantastic news!

Re: Orion 1.0

#69

Post by philipwhiuk » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:34 PM UTC

Begun again the browser wars have.

Re: Orion 1.0

#70

Post by fudged71 » Tue, Nov 25, 2025, 5:42 PM UTC

I’m now using it on iOS, switching from Arc. It’s working surprisingly well, good feel and customization. Might keep it.