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Dark Mode Sucks

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Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#61
post #12

I kind of wish white showed up as that manila bookish paper color. I think my eyes read that better than white. But I dont mind dark mode either. I wouldn't never say its mandatory though

Default background for early web was light gray specifically because black on pure white is kind of hard on the eyes.

I’m not a huge fan of dark mode on the desktop personally, but the people who claim #000000 on #FFFFFFF is equivalent to a paper book are misguided.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#62
This is one of the worst class of articles that are posted on hn. These articles make very confident claims based on their own opinions, are extremely short and make no effort at all to back up their confident claims with any sort of reasoning or data.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#63
post #35

I occasionally get requests from readers to add a dark mode to my blog - https://simonwillison.net/ - and I'm never sure how much priority I should give those, as someone who almost never chooses to use dark mode. Dark mode fans: does it really bother you to read white web pages?

Yeah, it does. It's not the worst in the world but dark mode my eyes relax and I can better enter flow-states. Too much non-dark mode and I get eye floaters.

Probably has something to do with having an all black background on desktop / IRC, terminals, steam since 1996/1997->now

Even MSN Gaming Zone where I started was 'dark moded'

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#64
Just make it configurable. It's not that hard. The only thing I want to hear less about than light vs dark, tabs vs spaces, is the dripping condescension of morning people.

Make it configurable and let people be.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#65
post #35

I occasionally get requests from readers to add a dark mode to my blog - https://simonwillison.net/ - and I'm never sure how much priority I should give those, as someone who almost never chooses to use dark mode. Dark mode fans: does it really bother you to read white web pages?

Yes. I have Dark Reader[1] on by default for all websites and only disable it when it activly breaks a site, or a site has a suitibly dark theme and Dark Reader thus flips things the wrong way.

If a site is borked to the point that Dark Reader can't fix it, I'll use reader mode or just go somewhere else.

Your site looks just fine to me.

[1] https://darkreader.org/

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#66

Without taking an extreme or absolutist stance on this issue, I generally agree with the author here. Dark mode should be reserved for after sunset and before sunrise. The eyes are adapted to see daylight levels of light during daytime. If your ambient lighting and screen don't match this, then you're not using your body in the way it's evolved to function. What we need more of are screens with anti-glare and a wide…

Dark mode should be reserved for after sunset and before sunrise. Well, I'll meet the dark-mode people halfway, and say that it should always be available to users who want it. No one is saying that a personal preference for dark mode is invalid, just that it shouldn't be the default option, or worse, the only option.

Dark mode already isn't the default option across a vast majority of the entire internet.

There are easily 10x if not 100x as many sites that only support their default of light mode as those that even offer built-in support for dark mode, and it's more like 1000x as many as those that default to dark mode.

TFA does seem to be explicitly demanding erasure of the preferences of an insignificantly tiny minority of websites.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#67
post #39

What bothers me is when you copy something from dark mode, and then paste it somewhere normal and you see unreadable background-styled text ■■■■■■■■■■■■■.

Paste unstyled: CTRL+SHIFT+V, or the Mac equivalent.

I so wish it was possible to make paste unstyled the default. 99% of the time I want paste unstyled, not paste styled.

Re: Dark Mode Sucks

#68

I think providing both a light and dark mode is overkill, lead to odd bugs, and some weird color combinations. A lot of eng time lost here.

Providing both is not a complicated thing, especially with support in CSS, browsers, and frameworks. That is, unless one designs websites that are so complex and buggy already that supporting a second color scheme costs "a lot of engineering time".
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