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Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by viraptor »

noitpmeder wrote: post #4

To say nothing of the Roblox situation, anyone else having a hard time reading this piece of "reporting"? It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset. It's not trying to portray facts, it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light, instead of letting the reader arrive there on their own.

Reports like that don't need to be completely dispassionate. If you want that, there are other sources to read. But people have opinions.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by lll-o-lll »

yreg wrote: post #56
lll-o-lll wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no. Nintendo, as the other poster said. Random stranger interaction == bad. Can’t verify age == bad. Can only add your friends for chat? Is fine. I feel like this same strategy is sane for adults also. Before the internet, we did fine making friends and playing games with people we actually know. So much of the awfulness of the modern online space comes from anonymous interactions with strangers. I don’t think…

> Can only add your friends for chat? Is fine. I'm not saying it's not fine (depending on the age), but you won't convince me it's safer then playing Sim City 3000. It is inherently less safe.

As the parent, I have complete control over who my children can connect with on Nintendo (not so with Roblox and others). That makes it safe, because I can double check with parent of said friend. It’s completely fine.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by DonHopkins »

nitwit005 wrote: post #42
vintagedave wrote: post #6

I don't have children, but friends and family do, and I had always heard Roblox presented as kid-friendly and kid-safe. This meant I heard about someone's child playing Roblox and, thinking it was kindof an electronic construction set, ie a great learning and play tool,[0] I felt no concerns at all. To describe this interview as a 'car crash' is almost underselling it. I feel terrified. Most of all, what are my frien…

I find it puzzling you imagined tools for kids to build things to be somehow safe on its own. If a game provides the ability for kids to build things out of blocks, those same kids will make pornographic images out of those blocks.

Enabling kids to make pornographic images out of blocks is not the same thing as enabling pedophiles to make pornographic images out of kids.

Mythic Quest - TTP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_xqyIMwbew

>You give the public a shovel, they dig dicks. You give them a pen, they draw dicks. You give them some clay...

>Definitely going to sculpt dicks.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by lll-o-lll »

agravier wrote: post #53
lll-o-lll wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I had always heard Roblox presented as kid-friendly and kid-safe. Yeah, no. I have kids and have walked this path over the last few years. Roblox is, as a company, your standard big org. That is, completely amoral, extracting cash in whatever ways are possible, protecting users (kids) only to the minimal extent required by law or perception that might harm business. Very very little of their user-base are actually…

I'm interested in sources for your info about Roblox being choke full with pedos and the sophisticated techniques they employ.

Because you doubt my comments or because you are genuinely interested? I can go get them, as there have been some great investigative journalists working on this in recent times. However, I have very little interest in providing references you could very easily find for yourself, if you are merely skeptical.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by crises-luff-6b »

noitpmeder wrote: post #4

To say nothing of the Roblox situation, anyone else having a hard time reading this piece of "reporting"? It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset. It's not trying to portray facts, it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light, instead of letting the reader arrive there on their own.

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Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by ojosilva »

binsquare wrote: post #11

Here's the source of that interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpIXRgMlPo4 The CEO was NOT prepared for the questions in this interview, quote: `I was hoping to come here and talk about fun stuff`. It's insightful how a genuine question about hindenburg's research into Roblox's decrease in safety immediately pushed the CEO to fury starting 23:29.

Around that time in the video what I see is a journalist that did not do his homework, as he crumbled under the CEO's snarky "do you know this research company went out of business?" - he should just started to read the report findings and ask if they are true [1] or popped out the 16 public arrests [2] tied to Roblox in the US of A.

Both journalists were VERY agreeable and were like trying not to pick a fight. Want to talk about the fun stuff Mr CEO? There's no fun when so many kids are being systematically harassed by evil adults in the platform.

[1] https://hindenburgresearch.com/roblox/

[2] https://thebearcave.substack.com/p/problems-at-roblox-rblx-4

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by noitpmeder »

DonHopkins wrote: post #58
noitpmeder wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let the facts speak for themselves. I agree the interview sounds damning. However it reduces the quality of the article to introduce Roblox as a "pedophile hellscape" right off the bat, or tell me how it was so impressive how the interviewer "kept his cool" in response to the answers. It's honestly the same style of writing anytime Fox news reports on any democratic action, or vice versa for other rags. Except this h…

Are you suggesting they should have introduced it as a "pedophile paradise" right of the bat instead?

Yes 1000% I'm glad you correctly interpreted my actual intent here.

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by DonHopkins »

yreg wrote: post #56
lll-o-lll wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, no. Nintendo, as the other poster said. Random stranger interaction == bad. Can’t verify age == bad. Can only add your friends for chat? Is fine. I feel like this same strategy is sane for adults also. Before the internet, we did fine making friends and playing games with people we actually know. So much of the awfulness of the modern online space comes from anonymous interactions with strangers. I don’t think…

> Can only add your friends for chat? Is fine. I'm not saying it's not fine (depending on the age), but you won't convince me it's safer then playing Sim City 3000. It is inherently less safe.

I beg your pardon! SimCity incipiently indoctrinates children to believe in crazy stuff like the 9-9-9 tax plan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%E2%80%939%E2%80%939_Plan

Re: Roblox CEO interview about child safety didn't go well

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Post by mold_aid »

noitpmeder wrote: post #4

To say nothing of the Roblox situation, anyone else having a hard time reading this piece of "reporting"? It reads, to me, as so obviously slanted and opinionated against Roblox from the outset. It's not trying to portray facts, it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light, instead of letting the reader arrive there on their own.

No seemed pretty easy to read to me.

>It's not trying to portray facts

So what? It's a story about an interview.

The story quotes directly from the interview. I watched the interview, and the characterization is accurate. Here's a passage:

Newton: (interjecting) You don’t think you have a problem with predators on the platform.

Baszucki: I think we’re doing an incredible job at innovating relative to the number of people on our platform and the hours, in really leaning into the future of how this is going to work.

>it's clearly trying to make the reader interpret the situation in an anti-roblox light

Yes, I would imagine the thing described as a "pedophile hellscape" should look pretty bad to the average reader. But just so I'm getting this right: the thing you're maddest about is the bad PR for Roblox?

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