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Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by blacklion »

NaomiLehman wrote: post #52
unleaded wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every techie knows about Linux by now. Not everyone chooses to use Windows because they're foolish or don't know any better

why do they choose it? i have a windows workstation because one CNC machine that we use needs it. only other reason i can see is gaming? I have all 3 major OSs at home and, honestly, Windows 11 is stuff of nightmares to me

Adobe products, for example. Or any of other of miriad of other products which have only Win/MacOS and no Linux support.

And, no, Wine cannot run anything.

You see, I don't need OS at all, I need applications. Some of these applications are "universal" (FireFox, for example), some has good equivalents, and some are unique to OS.

And, no, DarkTable, or RAW Therappe are not equivalent to Lightroom or Capture One. And no, there is no equivalent to foobar2000 among music players.

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by anthk »

blacklion wrote: post #60
Refreeze5224 wrote: post #33

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Windows is weird. The way these mods work is injecting code into different processes, which is a very common malware technique. Keyloggers in particular work similarly to Windhawk. And that is not a swipe at Windhawk, that is just how Windows has you do this type of thing.

`LD_PRELOAD` works on UNIX-like systems too.

Thanks to LD_PRELOAD you could downgrade tons of OpenGL effects and enforce some settings for high end games and make them playable with good speeds on legacy systems.

Also to force texture sizes and whatnot.

I wish Wine/Proton had options for those, to override antialising, texture sizes, rendering resolution and everything.

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by anthk »

blacklion wrote: post #61
NaomiLehman wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why do they choose it? i have a windows workstation because one CNC machine that we use needs it. only other reason i can see is gaming? I have all 3 major OSs at home and, honestly, Windows 11 is stuff of nightmares to me

Adobe products, for example. Or any of other of miriad of other products which have only Win/MacOS and no Linux support. And, no, Wine cannot run anything. You see, I don't need OS at all, I need applications. Some of these applications are "universal" (FireFox, for example), some has good equivalents, and some are unique to OS. And, no, DarkTable, or RAW Therappe are not equivalent to Lightroom or Capture One. And n…

MPD + advanced clients pown foobar 2000 anytime. Also, Audacious, Strayberry...

Audacious with audacious-plugins could play anything (even video game music files) and it still has ProjectM plugins' support.

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by rkagerer »

bongodongobob wrote: post #56

I've tried these things before. Use with caution, and definitely not on a work device. They never fully uninstall and you might be left with incorrect registry keys and other weirdness. May break updates as well.

They never fully uninstall

Ugh, you'd think we'd be better by now.

I've had good success with Total Uninstall for this problem (with software in general). It does a diff of your registry and filesystem before/after installing an app, and after uninstall highlights lingering remnants. Over time you and it "learn" to filter out background changes unrelated to the install process.

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by thomastjeffery »

Krssst wrote: post #8
mattferderer wrote: post #5

Can't speak for this product but disabling a lot of the animations, gradients, shadows & visual effects has made Windows 11 run significantly better on the computers I have it on. They didn't seem to add much value anyways. I'm a fan of a lot of the user experience improvements being made in Windows over the last decade, such as Terminal, running Linux, Power Toys features, screenshots & recording, Paint finally gett…

Disabling animations makes everything better no matter the OS. When executing a sequence of actions, not having to wait 100-300ms for the device to show some random animation before inputing the next action is a time saver and a removes the "why is my computer/phone wasting my time" feeling. Human reaction time is around 200ms but in a sequence of actions, we don't need visual feedback to move to the next action; it'…

> Human reaction time is around 200ms

Even if you are talking about the entire loop, that sounds pretty high. Maybe if its moving your hands in reaction to an unexpected stimulus in your feet...

We can tell the difference between 60fps (~16ms per frame) and 120fps (~8ms per frame). Any more than that is a noticeable amount of waiting.

It does get complicated, though. What if the information is presented immediately, then animated? Well, that's where a complete measurement of reaction time would be relevant.

Even so, as you pointed out, we often predict what we will be doing in advance, and can perform a sequence of learned actions much more quickly. If there is a delay imposed before you can perform an action, then you must learn the delay, too. That learning process involves making mistakes (attempting the action before the animation is over), which is extra frustrating, considering how unnecessary it is.

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by baq »

moron4hire wrote: post #58
baq wrote: post #20

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as opposed to any other updater on your system...? > Tech Enthusiasts: Everything in my house is wired to the Internet of Things! I control it all from my smartphone! My smart-house is bluetooth enabled and I can give it voice commands via alexa! I love the future! > Programmers / Engineers: The most recent piece of technology I own is a printer from 2004 and I keep a loaded gun ready to shoot it if it ever makes an…

It's actually not completely outside of my threat profile. Honestly, with the prevailaince of ransomware attacks, unless you're a literal hermit, it shouldn't be out of anyone's threat profile.

Absolutely. Sufficiently capable LLMs can mass produce exploits against whole ecosystems; recent Anthropic post moves the risk needle from ‘theoretical’ to ‘realized’. Any auto-updating software is running a risk of its cdn and/or build forge being compromised. Scary times.

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by noosphr »

blacklion wrote: post #61
NaomiLehman wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why do they choose it? i have a windows workstation because one CNC machine that we use needs it. only other reason i can see is gaming? I have all 3 major OSs at home and, honestly, Windows 11 is stuff of nightmares to me

Adobe products, for example. Or any of other of miriad of other products which have only Win/MacOS and no Linux support. And, no, Wine cannot run anything. You see, I don't need OS at all, I need applications. Some of these applications are "universal" (FireFox, for example), some has good equivalents, and some are unique to OS. And, no, DarkTable, or RAW Therappe are not equivalent to Lightroom or Capture One. And n…

>And, no, Wine cannot run anything.

Wine may not be able to run the apps you need, but it can run plenty. The older the software gets the more wine becomes the only option to run it.

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by m417z »

moron4hire wrote: post #11
icapybara wrote: post #9

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Doesn't mean it's safe.

Yeah, I would probably delete this updater if I were to try this: https://github.com/ramensoftware/windhawk/blob/main/src/wind...

This is not an updater. Due to the sensitive nature of Windhawk, it has no auto-updating mechanism, only update notifications (this file is part of that).

Re: Windhawk Windows classic theme mod for Windows 11

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Post by oezi »

Krssst wrote: post #29
sudopsuedo wrote: post #21

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Have you looked into SimpleWindowSwitcher? https://github.com/sigoden/window-switcher ExplorerPatcher makes it easy to configure in the settings menu, I'm not aware of any other projects that implement SWS: https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher It's very fast and can be configured to set window thumbnail size/area

Thank you, I was not aware of either of those. SimpleWindowSwitcher looks like a good alternative, unfortunately on my side I think I would prefer switching between all windows of all apps rather than have two different shortcuts for "switch between windows of the current app" and "switch between apps" (but that's just a personal preference). ExplorerPatcher looks cool too, though patching explorer is probably a no-n…

I discovered Switcheroo two weeks ago and seeing it abandoned with over 30 forks with relevant commits made me want try to consolidate the forks and add my own flavor to it:

First beta release at

https://github.com/coezbek/switcheroo

Noteable: column design for most frequently used applications and pinned apps shown separately.

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