ICC ditches Microsoft 365 for openDesk

Post by bunderbunder » Thu, Nov 06, 2025, 6:33 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #34

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Microsoft has to follow US sanctions, even if they are misplaced. This isn't a choice on Microsoft's part here. The ICC was applauded in the US in the when it went after Russia but when it goes after Israel it is sanctioned. It unfortunately hard to be impartial, like the ICC is, when it comes to international war crimes. The big players want you to play towards their favourites and only hold their enemies accountabl…

> Microsoft has to follow US sanctions Microsoft has to follow US law . If it believes an order has been issued unlawfully, it—and everyone who works there who follows the order—has a civic duty to oppose the order in court.

Post by lysace » Thu, Nov 06, 2025, 6:37 PM UTC

tharne wrote: post #60

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USA has been very hostile to the ICC since way before Trump. The ICC was created in 1998 when Bill Clinton was president of the USA. He never ratified the Rome treaty. And then GW, Obama, Trump and Biden didn't either. Very few americans batted an eye as far as I could tell. Your are after all by definition exceptional. (/s)

This is not a U.S. specific issue. Once you strip away all of the formalities, titles, and ceremonies, you'll realize there's no such thing as international law, at least not in any meaningful sense of the word. The law, by definition is a rule backed up by the use of force, specifically state-sanctioned violence. If you write a law but do not have the ability to use a sufficient amount violence to enforce it when ne…

Post by mikestew » Thu, Nov 06, 2025, 6:44 PM UTC

evolve2k wrote: post #44

Lawyers historically are notoriously linked to Microsoft and its formats as a somewhat unintentional industry side standard. Moves like this hearten me as for certain lawyers the formats and standards they now will be expected to follow has just shifted, towards open source no less.

Post by tharne » Thu, Nov 06, 2025, 6:45 PM UTC

lysace wrote: post #63

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This is not a U.S. specific issue. Once you strip away all of the formalities, titles, and ceremonies, you'll realize there's no such thing as international law, at least not in any meaningful sense of the word. The law, by definition is a rule backed up by the use of force, specifically state-sanctioned violence. If you write a law but do not have the ability to use a sufficient amount violence to enforce it when ne…

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Post by thisislife2 » Thu, Nov 06, 2025, 6:48 PM UTC

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Have you tried LibreOffice ( https://www.libreoffice.org/ ) or OnlyOffice ( https://www.onlyoffice.com/desktop )? Both are pretty decent, and free, and also have commercial versions.

MS365/Google docs is something entirely different to the old desktop office suites It's a collaboration tool, with synced storage and file management etc The overlap of a Venn diagram between users of these software is not very large - though there is some (overlap).