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YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by kakacik »

hliyan wrote: post #33
isodev wrote: post #11

That's why we have Peertube and your personal (not hosted by a corp) website. It's amazing how people forgot to use the internet in exchange for "easier" UX.

I wonder if the future should simply be a cloud version of a personal computer. Rather than subscribing to a lot of SaaS where your data distributed across various platforms, you "purchase" a cloud computer (could be a tiny SOC + disk, or a VM), install software on it (licensed, not subscription based), and store all your data on it, as good old-fashioned files only you and your programs can access. Including your vi…

I certainly hope it shouldn't look like that, that sounds horrible on many, in fact all levels.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by rootnod3 »

hliyan wrote: post #52
krige wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then the company goes under, or decides your variant of the service is not worth maintaining, or that there is potential for enshittification. All your data, gone. And it WILL happen.

If by service, you mean the cloud machine -- I mean a plain vanilla machine running an OS of your choice (e.g. Windows or Ubuntu). Switching to another service provider means taking your file backups + reinstalling your software on the new machine. Developers already know how to do this with EC2s, Droplets, Linodes, Azure VMs etc. The process just needs to be more average-person-friendly.

And where then is your backup? In the same cloud? The one that just tried to rip your data sovereignity away from you?

The average person still uses the same password for EVERYTHING, despite say iOS and Android making it easy as pie to just go "generate passwords for me". Telling an average person to have a 3-2-1 backup AND run stuff in the cloud that they will 100% lose the password for is not a battle I see to be won in the near future.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by woodpanel »

EdiX wrote: post #42
DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #2

It turns out that it's much easier than anyone thought to end freedom of speech in the United States. If no one cares about the Constitution, then it's just paper. Trump sanctions the International Criminal Court and anyone who provides evidence to it, and now pro-Palestinian groups can't post videos of Israeli abuse on YouTube. The First Amendment is nowhere to be seen.

Where were you in the last 6 years? Ah, I see, people you didn't like were being censored so you didn't care.

Exactly, it's laughable that this is coming from the same people who cheered on auto de-monetization for even mentioning the word "Covid" in a YT-video or the countless de-platforming and de-banking of individuals. Is this still gaslighting or something else?

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Post by bjourne »

isodev wrote: post #11

That's why we have Peertube and your personal (not hosted by a corp) website. It's amazing how people forgot to use the internet in exchange for "easier" UX.

Does having your personal website even matter when the agents of censorship can just request that search engines delist your urls? Or pay for tons of ads so that your site's ranking drops to the second or third page for whatever keywords it happens to match on. And if they still get sizeable traffic, they can just ask your hosting provider to cancel your account. No need to burn the books when you can just remove them.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by FridayoLeary »

notorandit wrote: post #17

If all this is true, then it's another step towards freedom. Freedom to delete and rewrite history.

I'm sure it's technically true, with absolutely no nuance. You can say "BBC pull documentary of life inside gaza" which is completely accurate. What is also true is that the boy who was the main focus of the documentary was the son of a Hamas official which throws the whole thing into question.

YT normally takes down any video depicting violence.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by kiicia »

hliyan wrote: post #33
isodev wrote: post #11

That's why we have Peertube and your personal (not hosted by a corp) website. It's amazing how people forgot to use the internet in exchange for "easier" UX.

I wonder if the future should simply be a cloud version of a personal computer. Rather than subscribing to a lot of SaaS where your data distributed across various platforms, you "purchase" a cloud computer (could be a tiny SOC + disk, or a VM), install software on it (licensed, not subscription based), and store all your data on it, as good old-fashioned files only you and your programs can access. Including your vi…

You just described worst case scenario

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Post by kiicia »

CommanderData wrote: post #39

Facebook have a Zionist censorship team. YouTube probably has far worse. All US social media are bound to US foreign policy which enables Israel to continue it's invasion and systematic cleansing of Palestinians.

For months now word „zionist” is officially banned on Facebook and hasbara bots are ready to tell you that you are antisemite

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by fluoridation »

marcuskane2 wrote: post #55
isodev wrote: post #11

That's why we have Peertube and your personal (not hosted by a corp) website. It's amazing how people forgot to use the internet in exchange for "easier" UX.

> your personal (not hosted by a corp) website I'm not sure that's enough. A few years ago there were some set of websites that wanted less censorship than the main corporate sites (or at least, a different set of censorship rules), I forget all their names now - voat, rumble, gab, parler, etc and people who didn't like the content they saw there just went upstream to cloud providers, app stores, registrars, payment…

>I think to maintain any sort of real open web, we're going to need some sort of new Tor network that can support billions of users anonymously accessing information which can't be deplatformed

That already exists. They're called onion sites. What we really need is something that performs about as well as the current Internet, but is stronger against deplatforming: decentralized DNS. It doesn't even need to give memorable names like DNS does, it just needs to be a second, stable addressing layer on top of IP so clients can always find the server.

Re: YouTube erased more than 700 videos documenting Israeli human rights violations

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Post by kiicia »

eldgfipo wrote: post #60
sciencesama wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With even a small percent of population they can do so much !!

Neocons/Zionist is a huge percentage of people in power (including the ones appointed or who ruthlessly climbed up the corporate ladder)

Yes they are, what was conspiracy theory for years turned out to be true

And if someone is not, then they have material for blackmail

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