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Tell HN: Mechanical Turk is twenty years old today

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Re: Tell HN: Mechanical Turk is twenty years old today

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Been a member since the beginning. Never necessarily needed the money, it was just a way to pass some time. I eventually found it as a way to raise some cash for casino money. More recently, now I'm retired and don't really gamble too much.. I might do a task here and there. Whatever I raise I donate to the local soup kitchen.

For those using it to "get by" idk, I mean I knew someone who qualified for SSDI in theory but was still denied. He used it to offset some cash needs but obviously was not sufficient enough. Think the bigger issue around ethics is more societal. People shouldn't have to rely on it in place of SSDI when they shouldn't have been denied. I suppose the same can apply to food stamps etc. With this administration obviously things are tightening and getting more strict. Potential SSDI reforms will probably exasperate the need for this service. The ideal is this wouldn't be the case and the service just provides the small cash niceties for small time gaming and donations.

ref; https://www.propublica.org/article/social-security-disabilit...

Re: Tell HN: Mechanical Turk is twenty years old today

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Hand drawn pictures of mushrooms (to later compare to the 118 carvings on Stonehenge)

Say more!

https://pure.tudelft.nl/ws/files/144861667/enigma_of_mind_a_...

Look for the illustrations…

I’ve also done a statistical shape analysis comparing to all bronze ax heads in England. Not yet published.

Re: Tell HN: Mechanical Turk is twenty years old today

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If there's any justice, a good number of comments will focus on the ethical nightmare MTurk turned out to be. Apologies to the people who worked on it, but it's fair and appropriate for observers to point out when someone has spent their time and energy creating something that is a net negative for the state of society. That's probably the case here.

If mturk workers had better opportunities, they'd take them. mturk is competing with local economies in low opportunity locales. It is rational to work in a cybercafe doing rote web tasks for 8 hours if you'd receive the same amount of money performing manual labor.

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Re: Tell HN: Mechanical Turk is twenty years old today

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I have a story from the mechanical side. I spent a month in 2012 roughly 4 hours a day doing various tasks. It was horrible, even if I followed all the "best practices" of Turkers it was not a way to make a living. By end of the month, I had become so jaded to all the "priming" experiments by graduate and undergraduate psychology students. Those usually paid at least something 3-4 USD an hour. Did some porn labeling…

What country do you live in? There are places where $3-$4 USD per hour is significantly higher than the prevailing wage. This is not a great fact about global wealth disparity, but that money goes towards improving the situation not making it worse.

To math it out: 8 hours a day at $3 USD per hour with 2 weeks vacation is about $15,000 per year.

That's not a lot of money to someone who lives in the United States. But here in 2025 it gets you out of the bottom quintile of earners in China, India, Brazil, Russia, Turkey, Japan, Central America, South America, Africa, South Asia, Southeast Asia, most of Eastern Europe...

For a job that's on demand, and requires, as far as I can tell, decent English skills and an Internet connection, but no real barriers to entry otherwise. It would have been a much stronger deal back in 2012, of course.

I'd be interested to know if the introduction of MTurk as a market competitor pushed entry level clerical wages up in some of these areas. Probably not, because English proficiency in a non English speaking country is a very rare skill not usually borne by people in the bottom 20% of income. But that's probably less true today given the dominant of English language YouTube.

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