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Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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Speaking of these, does anyone recall the AtheneOS distribution/OS. There’s an archive.org copy of the desktop environment version of it, but I recall there was a really fast version with only 2D graphics and it was a full distribution. Can anyone validate whether this is real? I tried contacting the guy who wrote it but the Companies House address for his company (Rocklyte) bounced the letter.

Syllabe OS?

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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Because before you many users complained "IT TAKES UP THE WHOLE SCREEN!!!!" and it was a bit annoying to be honest when it obscures a video or something else you're trying to view.

what kind of video are you watching where you need to change the volume so often and missing two seconds of part of the video would be such an issue?

Look. I wanted to change the volume. My hand went to the keyboard. I felt the key. I felt the key press down. The volume changed.

That's all the feedback I need! I don't need my vision stuffed with that information.

But yeah, it did look cute and should be an option between "Expressive" or "Minimal" UI.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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> What youre describing is called iOS on a large iPad. iPad was my gateway drug into Apple when I got it as a gift for my aunt and saw how easy and intuitive it was to use, and also to develop for. Then after Jobs' whip fell from his cold hands they went into the realm of "mystery meat" menus and arcane gestures where swiping from seemingly every different angle of the screen edge does something different. Swipe from…

They removed the side thing in 26 and are bringing it back in 26.1. There’s a complete lack of project leadership and it’s strangely worrying.

> There’s a complete lack of project leadership

I mean, that's fine, if there is no overarching vision. Just let users CUSTOMIZE the UI the way we want. That's it.

That would actually be easier on the UI designers too. Perhaps just a trifle bit complicated for the coders, but they have *AI* now, right??

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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post #50

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They removed the side thing in 26 and are bringing it back in 26.1. There’s a complete lack of project leadership and it’s strangely worrying.

> There’s a complete lack of project leadership I mean, that's fine, if there is no overarching vision. Just let users CUSTOMIZE the UI the way we want. That's it. That would actually be easier on the UI designers too. Perhaps just a trifle bit complicated for the coders, but they have *AI* now, right??

I fully believe that those inside Apple fighting for customized UI are relegated to hiding them as accessibility options. Apple has never been very fond of customization (one way, Apple's way, or the highway).

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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This is very very cool, and unlike a lot of other "hobby" OSes actually looks usable as a daily driver if your needs are basic (kids, elderly, older/cheaper hardware, etc). While for nerds computers have become these monstrously powerful things that can do everything under the sun, there's definitely still plenty of people who just want a computer to write down notes, keep a calendar, use the calculator... eg the thi…

>if your needs are basic (kids, elderly, . . .) Most kids and most elderly need to run a mainstream browser from time to time, and this Visopsys will almost certainly never be able to run a mainstream browser.

Then we need to change what is meant by "mainstream browser".

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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Interesting. Never heard of this system before. It's apparently a monolithic kernel, developed almost exclusively by originally Canadian programmer Andy McLaughlin since 1997. The system has a graphical user interface, preemptive multitasking, and virtual memory. It is implemented in C and IA-32 assembly language. Here is a 2012 interview with the author: https://www.pingdom.com/blog/visopsys-operating-system/.

Re: Visopsys: OS maintained by a single developer since 1997

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What youre describing is called iOS on a large iPad. Everyone from 4 year olds to my 77 year old computer illiterate Dad can figure it out. This doesn't look very usable at all by someone who isn't basically a computer nerd.

> What youre describing is called iOS on a large iPad. iPad was my gateway drug into Apple when I got it as a gift for my aunt and saw how easy and intuitive it was to use, and also to develop for. Then after Jobs' whip fell from his cold hands they went into the realm of "mystery meat" menus and arcane gestures where swiping from seemingly every different angle of the screen edge does something different. Swipe from…

> the realm of "mystery meat" menus and arcane gestures where swiping from seemingly every different angle of the screen edge does something different. Swipe from the top-right corner to get the Control Center, but swipe from the center-top to see the Notifications?

Ha, I'm a heavy long term iOS and MacOS user, and I still haven't learned what all the swipes and clicks in random places actually do exactly.

I just I know sometimes click by accident at the very bottom right of my display on MacOS and it swishes all the windows to the right (why? I have no idea?!), clicking again brings them back luckily.

On iOS I resonate with your comments about the swiping from different places to get different things. The only gesture I can ever remember is swiping from top right to get the quick system menu to turn wifi on/off etc. I can never figure out how to clear my notifications or why they're sometimes displayed and sometimes aren't. And the other swipes and menus are completely beyond me.

I'm a 40 year old life long software developer.

"iOS on a large iPad" has some good affordances but is definitely NOT some kind of panacea for elderly or computer illiterate users!

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