Live data from Hacker News

Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

usdairy.com

61–70 of 264 posts

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you form this picture of US cheese after visiting a hot dog cart?

Few things are more popular among Europeans than making up ignorant nonsense about how dumb and backwards Americans are.

My favorite is that we don't have bakeries or endless varieties of fresh bread.

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because their garbage cheese is still miles better than what other people make, and there's no cheese market large enough and rich enough to pay them what their top cheese is worth, so its worth more just to keep it for themselves

> there's no cheese market large enough and rich enough to pay them what their top cheese is worth That sounds like the market expressing the collective opinion that their cheese is not miles better than what other people make. On a related note, the best seems to be considered Emmentaler AOC, and it does not seem especially difficult to purchase outside of Switzerland.

Emmentaler is a fairly common cheese. I would expect the 'best' to be some obscure cheese that neither you nor me have heard of.

I'm quite fond of the Belper Knolle, but even that ain't particularly obscure.

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

#64
post #42

> Properly formed eyes are a mark of quality. Except when I asked someone who makes cheese in Switzerland, they told me almost the opposite (and mostly that they export the junk cheese to the US and keep the good stuff). As an aside, what are the odds this article was written by AI? It has that feel (minus random bolding and bullet points).

"Swiss cheese" is not... a "Swiss" cheese. It's just the name of a cheese, but that cheese does not come from Switzerland.

> that cheese does not come from Switzerland

The canton of Bern makes an absolutely excellent Emmantaler. It’s the original Swiss cheese as brought to America by 19th-century Swiss immigrants to Wisconsin.

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

#65
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there's no cheese market large enough and rich enough to pay them what their top cheese is worth That sounds like the market expressing the collective opinion that their cheese is not miles better than what other people make. On a related note, the best seems to be considered Emmentaler AOC, and it does not seem especially difficult to purchase outside of Switzerland.

Emmentaler is a fairly common cheese. I would expect the 'best' to be some obscure cheese that neither you nor me have heard of. I'm quite fond of the Belper Knolle, but even that ain't particularly obscure.

> would expect the 'best' to be some obscure cheese that neither you nor me have heard of

…why? Gruyère and Appenzeller are delicious. They’re also well known. My favorite blue in the world is Point Reyes. Controversial when I’m in France. But not some secret undiscovered jewel.

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

#66
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd rather be known for Swiss cheese than American cheese. At least Swiss is actually cheese and not a cheese product. American cheese is nasty. It baffles me people not only eat it, but also like it

There are largely three types of cheese in the US: Swiss, American and Cheddar. I live near to Cheddar (Somerset, UK) but I'm not going to get too outraged. All countries, without exception, do something unpleasant to an ingredient or dish that the rest of the world will cry foul over. It is the way of things.

I'm always somewhat amused that British supermarkets seem to have a cheese section and right next to it a Cheddar section. (Ie Cheddars take up as much space as all the other kinds of cheeses combined.)

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Few things are more popular among Europeans than making up ignorant nonsense about how dumb and backwards Americans are.

My favorite is that we don't have bakeries or endless varieties of fresh bread.

Americans are richer per capita than Europeans. Particularly when it comes to disposable purchasing power in a foreign country. A lot of European stereotypes about America are filtered through both tourist traps and cost constraints.

(For a similar effect in respect of Europe, see the median Russian tourist summarizing Western Europe.)

Re: Why does Swiss cheese have holes?

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why on Earth would they intentionally export only their garbage cheese? Then the world will only know them for that. The holes in modern Emmental cheese are created intentionally. In Switzerland the additive used to create them is forbidden. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmental_cheese#Natural_holes_...

> Why on Earth would they intentionally export only their garbage cheese? This usually happens when one population is discerning and the other is not.

I don't know what to make of that statement. It is arrogant, at least. Are you trashing just the 340 million people in the US with this comment, or everybody not-Swiss?
Post reply on HN