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Chess engines didn't replace Magnus Carlsen, and AI won't replace you

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Re: Chess engines didn't replace Magnus Carlsen, and AI won't replace you

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This is a poor analogy. Magnus Carlsen stays because chess consumers decide to pay for humans even though they are inferior to Stockfish. BigCorp will always pick machine over you if they can.

> BigCorp will always pick machine over you if they can. But, people might not always prefer BigCorp over humans, if they can?

Never underestimate how many people will gladly accept inferior quality for a lower price.

Re: Chess engines didn't replace Magnus Carlsen, and AI won't replace you

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Even though cars are faster, there are still human runners.

To add to your point, chess is relatively irrelevant vs other games. And there's a chance it is precisely because it is too simple. After all, human chess players have been beaten two decades ago. Dota 2 game and players were not (as of last try by OpenAI) - certain mechanics had to be removed to compete with the top players.

Re: Chess engines didn't replace Magnus Carlsen, and AI won't replace you

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I'm understanding this right his ELO was 2064 in 2001 when he was 11. I don't think he was using engines for post-game analysis at 11 or maybe he was, but he was certainly born better at chess than most people. https://ratings.fide.com/profile/1503014/chart I love the original article. Hey guys you just have to be the best programmer in the world to not be replaced by AI!

> Carlsen showed an aptitude for intellectual challenges at a young age. At two years, he could solve 50-piece jigsaw puzzles; at four, he enjoyed assembling Lego sets with instructions intended for children aged 10–14. His father, a keen amateur chess player, taught him to play at the age of five, although he initially showed little interest in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#Childhood I don't know y…

I mean, I could build any lego at age 4, that didn't make me smart, just obsessed with lego, lol

Re: Chess engines didn't replace Magnus Carlsen, and AI won't replace you

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Carlsen showed an aptitude for intellectual challenges at a young age. At two years, he could solve 50-piece jigsaw puzzles; at four, he enjoyed assembling Lego sets with instructions intended for children aged 10–14. His father, a keen amateur chess player, taught him to play at the age of five, although he initially showed little interest in it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Carlsen#Childhood I don't know y…

I mean, I could build any lego at age 4, that didn't make me smart, just obsessed with lego, lol

I don't think that particular snippet of text is supposed to highlight how smart Magnus is because of being able to build LEGO at 4, but rather shows the kind of environment he grew up with to foster what he is today.

Re: Chess engines didn't replace Magnus Carlsen, and AI won't replace you

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We're not all Magnus Carlsen. Some of us are hacks or very ordinary 'players', and can be replace without a ripple on the pond.

everyone is the Magnus Carlsen of their own life, though. and humans are irreplaceable. sure, budget decisions are made that cause people to have to go find another employer. but there is no civilization without people in it.

Yeah tell that to the 1800s weavers obsoleted by machine looms. They didn't enjoy civilization's benefits after they (and their families) starved to death. One in four. Grim.
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