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Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by Hendrikto »

weli wrote: post #35
Tepix wrote: post #12

It's an Open Source project - I don't understand what people are complaining about. Noone is entitled to receive free Docker images. I'm sure if there is enough demand, someone else who is trustworthy will step up and automate building them. What I'd like to complain about instead is the pricing page on the Min.io webpage - it doesn't list any pricing. Looking at https://cloudian.com/blog/minios-ui-removal-leaves-org…

When you always published and built Docker images for the public you are creating an expectation, people will rely on that and will chose your software based on that expectation. You suddenly deciding that you won't be offering updated Docker images especially after a CVE and with no prior notice (except a hidden commit 4 days ago that updated the README) is approaching malicious-level actions. If they truly cared ab…

> When you always published and built Docker images for the public you are creating an expectation

That expectation does not entitle anybody to anything though.

> people will rely on that and will chose your software based on that expectation

That is their decision. Without any contract or promise, there is no obligation to anybody.

> You suddenly deciding that you won't be offering updated Docker images […] is approaching malicious-level actions.

I really don’t get this entitlement. “You are still doing unpaid work I benefit from, but you used to do more, therefore you are malicious.” is something I really cannot get behind.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by ezascanbe »

killingtime74 wrote: post #59
ezascanbe wrote: post #57

Full disclosure: I work for Cloudian. While I understand the frustration with MinIO’s approach here, I want to be upfront about what Cloudian HyperStore is and isn’t - it is designed for multi-node, multi-site deployments (think 3+ nodes minimum) and performs best on bare metal or dedicated infrastructure rather than containerized environments. It’s a very mature S3 and offers IAM, SQS and STS endpoints as well. If y…

What is Cloudian? You guys didn't develop Minio did you? (Google says Minio Inc?) If you did it's hard to tell.

No, Cloudian did not develop MinIO - completely separate companies. MinIO was developed by MinIO Inc. Cloudian makes HyperStore, which is our own S3-compatible object storage solution. We’re a competitor to MinIO, not affiliated with them in any way.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by jraph »

phatfish wrote: post #45
weli wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you always published and built Docker images for the public you are creating an expectation, people will rely on that and will chose your software based on that expectation. You suddenly deciding that you won't be offering updated Docker images especially after a CVE and with no prior notice (except a hidden commit 4 days ago that updated the README) is approaching malicious-level actions. If they truly cared ab…

This only inconveniences open source freeloaders. Maybe you can volunteer some time to build Docker images?

Rant about the concept of open source freeloaders: there's no such thing as open source freeloaders. If the license explicitly gives you the right to use the stuff for free, there's nothing wrong in using this right. While it would be the right thing to give money / otherwise support the projects you rely on, it's on the software developers who decide to give these rights (I also think it's the right thing to do though) to figure out the business model.

There's also nothing wrong in being upset about something you relied on disappearing overnight. If someone decides to provide something for free, they should give time for people to stop relying on this free stuff if they can.

However, I also believe you should own it if you decide to ever rely on prebuilt Docker images. More specifically, if you are relying on prebuilt Docker images, you are letting someone else decide on a part of your infra. And yes, this someone else can decide to stop providing this part of your infra overnight. This is on you.

I also don't find anything wrong in deciding to not provide binaries for your open source project, or to stop providing binaries, including docker images.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by redserk »

jbstack wrote: post #47
redserk wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Demanding people do free work for you, like starting a fork on your expedited schedule is quite juvenile. Forks take time and effort from humans to maintain.

Where did you see a demand? The comment you're replying to merely asked if there is a fork.

The inclusion of the word “already” suggests that someone should have put forth effort to fork this project by now.

That’s where I interpreted this as a demand.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by killingtime74 »

ezascanbe wrote: post #62
killingtime74 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Cloudian? You guys didn't develop Minio did you? (Google says Minio Inc?) If you did it's hard to tell.

No, Cloudian did not develop MinIO - completely separate companies. MinIO was developed by MinIO Inc. Cloudian makes HyperStore, which is our own S3-compatible object storage solution. We’re a competitor to MinIO, not affiliated with them in any way.

Ah I see. Will check yours out.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

https://github.com/coollabsio/minio

I was reading the github discussion and found out that coollabs has taken on the decision to make docker images for these.

https://github.com/coollabsio/minio

https://github.com/minio/minio/issues/21647#issuecomment-342...

>Until we (the community) figure out something, I made an automated docker image version here: https://github.com/coollabsio/minio

The latest release is already available on ghcr and on dockerhub for amd and arm.

Well they have locked the discussion right now it seems but hope the community does something since my brother once asked for how to store audio and I thought that something like S3 could be perfect for it and wanted him to use minio or check it out.

Idk what I will recommend now? Garage? Seaweedfs?

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by fragmede »

arghwhat wrote: post #55
weli wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you always published and built Docker images for the public you are creating an expectation, people will rely on that and will chose your software based on that expectation. You suddenly deciding that you won't be offering updated Docker images especially after a CVE and with no prior notice (except a hidden commit 4 days ago that updated the README) is approaching malicious-level actions. If they truly cared ab…

There is absolutely nothing malicious or suspicious about deciding not to provide docker images or binaries. Doing so does not hide or guard you against CVE's, which are entirely unrelated to such optional processes. Building minio is not only trivial, but is standard procedure - the latest release is in my distributions standard package repo, and they would not use prebuilt binaries. If you want that dockerized, the…

If it were for a feature request, it would feel more justified. People feeling entitled to making feature requests is one thing. Like they can get fucked. Contribute code or pay me. But if I let something loose out into the world that suddenly started causing problems because someone discovered you could stab people with it, I'd be going around making sure all of the copies I gave out it had a knife guard put in place.

Re: MinIO stops distributing free Docker images

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Post by gear54rus »

Tepix wrote: post #12

It's an Open Source project - I don't understand what people are complaining about. Noone is entitled to receive free Docker images. I'm sure if there is enough demand, someone else who is trustworthy will step up and automate building them. What I'd like to complain about instead is the pricing page on the Min.io webpage - it doesn't list any pricing. Looking at https://cloudian.com/blog/minios-ui-removal-leaves-org…

Or one can just use old images. Which is what many people started doing after their other fuckup - removing perfectly working web UI from free version.

They just can't stop shooting themselves in the foot that didn't even heal from last time.

The last tag with a working web UI is RELEASE.2025-04-22T22-12-26Z btw.

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