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Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by Simucal »

drharris wrote: post #38

I love my iPhone 5, and think it's the most solid piece of electronics I've ever owned. Almost hate to put the thing in a case. As good as it is, there's a point everyone is overlooking when talking about the 5... the earpods. I've tried over 20 sets of earbuds to fit my weird ears, and all of them cause pain after half an hour or more of wear. I've been able to listen 4 hours straight on these earpods with no ill ef…

I think my ear must just be a bit small but the earpods hurt my ears after awhile. I really like the microphone + ability to answer calls from the buttons on the cord though.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by swombat »

bbgm wrote: post #57
seiji wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think putting an iPhone in a case is like leaving a plastic cover on a $3,000 couch. They are made to feel nice when your skin meets their design. Life happens. Enjoy things that won't harm you without the rubberized prophylaxis.

I have never put any iPhone in a case, even the iPhone 4 (my current phone). Seems to defeat the purpose. Although being a klutz, I am astonished that I have not even scratched it in 2 years.

Compromise: use some kind of pouch/sleeve. Then, while you're using it, the iPhone is as God/Jobs intended... and while it's in your pocket or on a table, it's safely wrapped in a layer of material that can take the damage.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by saurik »

josephlord wrote: post #25
choko wrote: post #15

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I think iTunes was probably the bigger motivator for customers purchasing iPods. Before iTunes, there weren't a lot of places to legally purchase digital music, and ripping CDs was kind of cumbersome.

I don't think you remember that time period very well. The iTunes store wasn't launched until over a year AFTER the iPod! The original iPod, chunky by today's standards was by far the smallest and easiest to use mp3 player that could carry more than a few hundred MB of data. At the time there wasn't any Windows support but I think 3rd party software became available if you had Firewire on your PC. From Wikipedia: iPo…

AFAICT, people weren't talking about the success of the iPod until 2004, and a bunch of people showing sales figures and historical analysis concur with that: the iPod was even described as "a flop" until the calendar year following the release of the iTunes Music Store. Of course, that also might not be causative: it was only in 2003 that they caved on supporting USB, and in 2004 they came out with the mini.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by mitchty »

w1ntermute wrote: post #32
seiji wrote: post #17

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Perfect scrolling, your applications can't spy on you, iTunes integration, and you don't constantly need to play whack-an-app to preserve battery life.

1. Perfect scrolling? Not in my experience with the iPad 3 (woops, "The new iPad"). 2. Have you seen the list of requested permissions when you install an Android app? Not that there haven't been privacy issues with iOS. 3. No iTunes integration sounds like an advantage to me. 4. I get the feeling most Apple fanbois have never actually used an Android device, because I have never had to close apps to save battery lif…

I've used my friends cyanogen and non s3's, honestly Androids not bad. The problem for me is the phones themselves. I have "girl hands" (size 7.5), I can't do bigger phones and use them with one hand.

As for public transit info any developer can register their app to provide that data. And to be honest I think its not that bad of an idea to let transit providers update transit information rather than having Google try. (where I am they don't even try that)

As for picking the browser, you're moving goal posts if you don't consider iOS "advanced" for lacking it.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by drharris »

seiji wrote: post #51
drharris wrote: post #38

I love my iPhone 5, and think it's the most solid piece of electronics I've ever owned. Almost hate to put the thing in a case. As good as it is, there's a point everyone is overlooking when talking about the 5... the earpods. I've tried over 20 sets of earbuds to fit my weird ears, and all of them cause pain after half an hour or more of wear. I've been able to listen 4 hours straight on these earpods with no ill ef…

I think putting an iPhone in a case is like leaving a plastic cover on a $3,000 couch. They are made to feel nice when your skin meets their design. Life happens. Enjoy things that won't harm you without the rubberized prophylaxis.

Agreed, and it pains me. But, I have a toddler, and while he's good with devices, he sometimes does drop them. So, a case is a necessary thing for now.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by stephencanon »

yread wrote: post #39
kumarm wrote: post #11

This is not a success by the expectations and hype created. Analysts projected 10Million sales and worst case scenario of 6Million sales before launch: http://articles.cnn.com/2012-09-19/tech/tech_mobile_iphone-5...

The market tends to agree with you AAPL is down ~1.2% as of 13:41 utc

The markets are down in general (AMZN -1.21% MSFT -0.93% DELL -0.48% ...), so the downtick of AAPL is not very informative.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by stonemetal »

untog wrote: post #29
calinet6 wrote: post #9

Turns out people just wanted a more refined iPhone with 4G. Who would have thought? Seriously though, I remember naysayers about the iPod back when it was first released, bemoaning the interface, design, and pointing out dozens of other mp3 players with longer feature lists at better prices. Yet the iPod still won out because it offered a consistent and predictable user experience, from the purchase to the day-to-day…

I agree that the criticism of the iPhone 5 was overblown, but I don't think these figures are a tremendous validation of the iPhone 5, either. The simple fact is that the vast majority of people are on two year cellphone plans, and it's been two years since the iPhone 4 came out. They took the upgrade in front of them. The iPhone 5 was good enough that people didn't want to switch to Android, but that isn't the stron…

Isn't more a case of Apple is simply benefiting from no-one doing anything very interesting. There is nothing really interesting about the iPhone 5. It continues the grand tradition of being a little better than its predecessor, but not much else. It certainly isn't going to cause waves in the Android community, just as nothing going on in the Android community is going to hurt it.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by OhArgh »

seiji wrote: post #41
Tichy wrote: post #20

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How do they manage the "applications can't spy on you" part? (Not counting the WhatsApp debacle). Also: iTunes???

Millions of people have a significant investment in iTunes media. They don't understand DRM-vs-not. They don't understand sideloading or frontloading or rearloading. They just want to plug-n-go. Pick some well off high school nearby and ask kids how often they buy something on iTunes. You'll cry when a large portion of them say multiple times per week. You'll go catatonic when they mention regularly spending over $10…

I wonder how long this will last though. I agree the average user here is not the target market and people just want something that works, but surely services like Spotify are making inroads here.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by seiji »

Tichy wrote: post #54
seiji wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Millions of people have a significant investment in iTunes media. They don't understand DRM-vs-not. They don't understand sideloading or frontloading or rearloading. They just want to plug-n-go. Pick some well off high school nearby and ask kids how often they buy something on iTunes. You'll cry when a large portion of them say multiple times per week. You'll go catatonic when they mention regularly spending over $10…

Sure, it works, I was just questioning the "most advanced" aspect of it.

It's PR. If it isn't blatantly superlative then it isn't worth pushing. Ever notice how every episode of every tv show is "The best episode yet" or "The most exciting season finale ever" or "The most suspenseful reveal you've ever seen?"

The past is the past, you are now, and you are the best most amazing super duper thing ever conceived by person kind for the benefit of the universe and our personal profit. dattebayo.

Re: iPhone 5 First Weekend Sales Top Five Million

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Post by JackC »

OhArgh wrote: post #12

"the world’s most advanced mobile operating system" I feel this needs to be quantified. How is it more "advanced" than the latest version of Android?

I don't think there's any objective way to define "most advanced" -- it just means "best." Their marketers claim the new OS they made is the best OS. If there is some aspect of the OS that is considered the best by someone, they're not wrong. If there is some aspect of some other OS that is considered the best by someone, they're not right. From your BBB link, see "puffery."

As other examples: they say the demand for the new phone is "incredible," they've been working "hard," the phone is "completely" redesigned and "blazing" fast, Macs are "the best" personal computers in the world, and that Apple "leads" the digital music "revolution".

If you feel the need to define quantifiable standards for some or all of those words, please do so -- it's the same motivation that drives people to get philosophy PhDs. But understand that you will be neither right nor wrong because those terms are subjective (and, word to the wise, if you get a philosophy PhD your options for professional employment will be limited).

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