When I did the same experiments in win98, the magic color was not bright green but #010000, the darkest possible red. Was this dependent on the OS? Or the driver?
yeh, I remember it being the darkest red too, maybe depended on bith depth ?
When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
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Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
#62I realized this when I tried to capture the test pattern used by a PowerDVD diagnostics application.
Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
2005 is pre iPhone. While cameras were definitely common, they also weren't quiet as ubiquitous as they're today. Lots of families only had them for trips etc, not readily available for kids to make photos of screens.
> 2005 is pre iPhone I hate how incompetent tech writing and marketing rewrote and simplified mobile phone history into pre/post-iphone. Yes, we did have touchscreens, smartphones and camera-enabled devices many years before the iPhone. Arguably, on several metrics, many Symbian/Linux/blackberry phones of that era are better smartphones than today's iPhone/Androids as defined by hardware capabilities which got remove…
I'm fully aware. I merely used that as a timeframe anchor to make my point.
Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
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Yes, other Mac AV models did the same thing. I remember doing this on the 6100/60AV that we had.
Are you the one who created the techno-anthem "pump up the jam"? Sweet!
Pump Up the Jam always reminds me of Philomena Cunk.
If you have Netflix, look up "Cunk on Earth". Trust me, you won't regret it.
Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
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No, it's not that. Usually, the OS does see the video and the compositor still renders it to the screen like normal, but when you take a screenshot, the OS itself is an accomplice here by not rendering that surface in screenshots.
Unfortunately, current implementations of DRM use things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_Media_Path
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Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
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As far as I can tell, it's still the case if the video is DRM-ed. Then any screenshots of it will be black square, because the OS can't "see" the video, it's sent directly to the monitor, similar as in the article.
No, it's not that. Usually, the OS does see the video and the compositor still renders it to the screen like normal, but when you take a screenshot, the OS itself is an accomplice here by not rendering that surface in screenshots.
Any DRM protection where the OS sees the video is useless, because the OS is under full control of the user. (For now at least)
Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
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This is simply wrong. Videos are still rendering in overlays in windows in Chrome right now. There are many reasons why overlays are still used.
[citation needed] If video rendering used overlays, then YouTube could not put the toolbar or subtitles on top of the video, and they’ve been doing so for a long time.
Modern overlay systems support alpha compositing. The video is placed behind and the elements (toolbar etc) are in front with an alpha hole.
Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, it's not that. Usually, the OS does see the video and the compositor still renders it to the screen like normal, but when you take a screenshot, the OS itself is an accomplice here by not rendering that surface in screenshots.
Any DRM protection where the OS sees the video is useless, because the OS is under full control of the user. (For now at least)
Not true about Android at least — there is secure boot where the bootloader will snitch on you if you unlock it, and you can't do anything about it because the attestation happens in a trusted execution environment, a hypervisor with higher privileges than the OS kernel, that you never get to unlock.
Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
#69I also remember that I couldn't make any screenshots of videos at all. They were rendered in some kind of overlay, that the rest of the GUI didn't know anything about.
that's literally what the article is about
Re: When you opened a screen shot of a video in Paint, the video was playing in it
#70Long time back I'd play PS2 games in a chat window in EverQuest while waiting for mobs to spawn. I had a capture card that would overlay over a particular shade of purple that I discovered while trying to screen shot something from a game. I made an empty chat window in EQ that color and where it overlapped the card's application window behind the video would render. Was super jank picture in picture, but it worked.