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Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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I'm waiting for the day we get microwaves with an AI that turns them off once the timer reaches zero.

Actually it already exists. My microwave have a button labeled “AI” which suppose to run the microwave until it determines the food is ready.

We have had this function for dozens of years in Japan already

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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This is wasting the time of accessibility engineers who are doing very important work. Please don't.

Clearly they aren't doing any/good work, if they allow popups to cover content. It's literally their job to prevent stuff like this. Mozilla needs to bring in the Bobs from Office Space: "What is it you say you do here?"

Don't be so cynical. There are people who actually have impaired accessibility and struggle with technologies we take for granted. Those people are the target of accessibility engineering, not your popup needs.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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Hum... Pretty much so. Unless it's a real emergency or the contents don't make sense until you do something, every modal window is an accessibility problem.

Even if it is a "real emergency," modal dialogs still don't make sense because people are so annoyed by them, they don't read them . If you really, really want the user to read something, don't put it in a modal that pops up over the thing they actually want to do. They're pretty much horrible UX for any conceivable use case.

My favorite mis-feature of these modals are the ones that announce something on page load, but they've also implemented "click outside modal to close it" so when you have any sort of muscle memory kicking in when you go to the website, you see a modal for 0.1s before it disappears as you click where you wanted to go.

On the opposite side, I'm also unreasonable frustrated when those modals appear and I cannot close it by clicking outside of it.

End results? Modals are horrible in most situations, especially when you want people to actually ingest some information.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.

Dialogues are supposed to pop over content. There is not enough chrome for anything else.

But it used to be that browser dialogues would start from the chrome, thus being impossible for webpages to mimic.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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Why would you brag about that? Honestly, to what end? If your goal is to put sand in the gears what difference is there between this and trolling, spamming or just good ol' fashioned DOS?

I didn't read malice into the post, just using a tongue-in-cheek tone. My reading was "letting them know doing bad choices will not quitely be accepted". But I may ofcourse read something into it that wasn't meant.

It goes beyond tongue-in-cheek if he's actually filing tickets and forcing engineers to spend their time responding.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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post #4

Good! I do not want nor need AI in every single aspect of my life. I mean, I've seen AI hygiene products out there. How does that even work? Don't answer that ... I know it's a marketing scheme, akin to the "HD" craze of five to 10 years ago.

It feels like we are going to need a lot of volunteer effort to help remove all the AI garbage out of all these projects that insist on jamming AI into themselves.

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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I'm waiting for the day we get microwaves with an AI that turns them off once the timer reaches zero.

Actually it already exists. My microwave have a button labeled “AI” which suppose to run the microwave until it determines the food is ready.

If it has a humidity sensor it'll likely work, but doesn't need "AI"

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

#68

I file a ticket with Firefox whenever an unwanted dialog pops up covering content. If you tag these as being accessibility related they get bounced back and forth between a few people before getting closed and thus pour just a little bit of sand in the gears.

this would be admirable if it's done in earnest to try and increase accessibility, but you say explicitly it's done specifically to "pour sand in the gears". please don't

Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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As a long-time firefox user (since the very earliest days of phoenix), I have to say: focus on open standards and delivering a faster and more secure browser. Make runtimes like electron out of your engine. DO shit that matters. Forget pocket, AI, and all that other junk. That is not your mission!

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Re: Tor browser removing various Firefox AI features

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post #61

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Actually it already exists. My microwave have a button labeled “AI” which suppose to run the microwave until it determines the food is ready.

We have had this function for dozens of years in Japan already

The world has had it, you just have to buy it.
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