61–70 of 82 posts
There is also https://www.hetzner.com/ (IaaS), https://www.leaseweb.com/en/ (IaaS) and https://www.nodion.com/en/ (PaaS). Disclaimer: I am the founder of Nodion.
Haven’t heard of Nodion before. What is your main selling point? What does it do different from just reselling Leaseweb?
There is also https://www.hetzner.com/ (IaaS), https://www.leaseweb.com/en/ (IaaS) and https://www.nodion.com/en/ (PaaS). Disclaimer: I am the founder of Nodion.
I don't think describing Hetzner as IaaS is very accurate. They do offer that as well, but also dedicated servers, VPS and more. Personally I use Hetzner exclusively for their cheap and unmetered dedicated servers, as I don't like paying per GB used or similar, I want one static cost per month regardless of anything. In fact, when I think about it, most other Hetzner users I've met have similar objectives and I don't…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hetzner is of the opinion that they have a cloud https://www.hetzner.com/cloud Whether it has enough features to satisfy your needs is another question, but it is more than just bare metal or vps
I mean basic features like auto scale and create new resources. The most basic thing with a load balancer and scale instances behind that. They don't have any of that.
As compared to a "traditional" offering where there's only a manual order form and getting a new server might take hours, making auto-scaling unfeasible
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Haven’t heard of Nodion before. What is your main selling point? What does it do different from just reselling Leaseweb?
On which infrastructure does Nodion run? You have and manage your own racks?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who cares what you think is insane. That's the way people think and talk in Europe, and it makes sense. Maybe in the UK people think of Russia when someone talks about Europe but certainly no one does that in the EU. In this case, it makes a lot of sense not to include the UK (or Russia) because people looking for alternatives to US cloud providers for legal reasons are going to have the same or even more concerns ab…
It's ok for you all to believe european === EU, but that is a EU only view (and factually incorrect). Also OK for you to buy stuff only from within the EU, I can understand why you'd want to do that, but obviously people outside the EU will be surprised to see you defining europe as the EU.
Have a hard time take this serious without hetzner
They don't have any cloud or abstraction. You basically rent bare metal servers.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think describing Hetzner as IaaS is very accurate. They do offer that as well, but also dedicated servers, VPS and more. Personally I use Hetzner exclusively for their cheap and unmetered dedicated servers, as I don't like paying per GB used or similar, I want one static cost per month regardless of anything. In fact, when I think about it, most other Hetzner users I've met have similar objectives and I don't…
How would you classify VPS and dedicated servers though? Aren't those considered infra?
So while you can build your own IaaS by using dokku, Kubernetes or whatever on top of dedicated servers, dedicated servers (or VPS) by themselves aren't part of IaaS.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean basic features like auto scale and create new resources. The most basic thing with a load balancer and scale instances behind that. They don't have any of that.
They have load balancers, and while they don't have an auto scale feature they do have APIs for starting instances and configuring the load balancer. So it's not that difficult to build your own auto scaling As compared to a "traditional" offering where there's only a manual order form and getting a new server might take hours, making auto-scaling unfeasible
Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don't have any cloud or abstraction. You basically rent bare metal servers.
Hetzner is of the opinion that they have a cloud https://www.hetzner.com/cloud Whether it has enough features to satisfy your needs is another question, but it is more than just bare metal or vps
Earlier quoted context omitted.
How would you classify VPS and dedicated servers though? Aren't those considered infra?
Yes, they are infrastructure but not Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS). IaaS is typically referring to the sort of services you don't really care about the underlying hardware at all, nor the OS. So while you can build your own IaaS by using dokku, Kubernetes or whatever on top of dedicated servers, dedicated servers (or VPS) by themselves aren't part of IaaS.
> Infrastructure as a service (IaaS) is a cloud computing service model where a cloud services vendor provides computing resources such as storage, network, servers, and virtualization (which emulates computer hardware). This service frees users from maintaining their own data center, but they must install and maintain the operating system and application software.