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Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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It would also be slow, not because the chip is slow but because if you do serious things with it it’s going to thermal throttle. Laptops have way better heat dissipation. Most people put phones in cases which makes heat dissipation much worse.

Sure but just for browsing, checking some e-mails, a bit of YouTube or other media consumption, you know what 90% of people use their macbook for 99% of the time, it would be fine. Nobody is saying you should be able to render some 3d models on an iPhone..

Is that really true. Do non-serious computer users still buy laptops?

What I see is that non-serious users who only communicate and consume content use phones and tablets. Laptops and desktops are for work, non-trivial content creation, and serious gaming with high memory and GPU requirements. You’re not running “cargo build” or a VM with Docker or Cyberpunk 2077 on a phone.

Higher end phones almost have enough CPU but not enough GPU, RAM, storage, or heat dissipation.

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

It can display an entire Mac desktop https://support.apple.com/en-us/118521

They want the individual windows from the Mac to be manoeuvrable. Currently it works like a virtual display - you can't move windows around space like you can with visionOS apps.

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Since they only list France and Germany as EU countries I guess the rest of us in the EU are never going to get the Vision Pro?

While I could get one from Germany, when I did that with the Google Pixel I ran into a whole bunch of trouble when it needed to get repaired. Since Google required an address in Germany.

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I was super interested in the Vision Pro when it was first released. Then I found out they went with an app model and the device could only display a single MacOS window. There went my dream of surrounding myself with a bunch of vim windows and terminals. If they'd focused on maximizing the device's usefulness instead of its revenue stream, maybe things would have worked out better.

Apple is not in the business of selling productivity software. Even their desktops/MacOS segment is an insignificant historical afterthought by now. To a first approximation, Apple is a manufacturer of locked-down handheld entertainment appliances whose primary function is to psychologically condition children into siphoning off money from their inattentive parents. There's no reason to suspect their vision for the A…

Every company I've worked at in the last 15-20 years has run fully on Mac. First it was the designers, then the devs, and now everyone. I used Windows for years and have some experience with various Linux distros, but if I joined a company that made me use either of those full-time I'd immediately start looking for another job.

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$3499??? Is anyone actually buying this?

they wound down production of the previous iteration[0] due to poor demand.

But seems like they do have a niche audience that likes it (and maybe can pass it as a business expense or something?) so they've sold a few.

[0] https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/23/apple-may-stop-producin...

Re: Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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$3499??? Is anyone actually buying this?

The reaction from the ATP guys is a solid "meh"; apparently it's pretty well done and nice, but not really "worth it."

And one of them bought a fully-loaded Mac Pro, so they're not immune to the Apple Distortion Field.

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