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EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by tcfhgj »

cheschire wrote: post #57
tcfhgj wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In your example it says “with soy protein” which seems to imply that soy protein is used in conjunction with the chicken type. And the text is smaller so it makes it seem like maybe they augment a smaller portion with soy, like ethanol used in E10 benzin. but obviously not chicken augmented with soy

Only obvious based on context and prior knowledge. But there are a lot of folks without that knowledge.

what knowledge and context do you miss specifically on the packaging?

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by tcfhgj »

tyleo wrote: post #11

Vegetables are delicious. I wish vegan options would lean into this instead of trying to be fake meat. IMO grilled mushrooms are tastier than grilled goop pressed into burger form.

people obviously want fake meat/burgers without actual meat, even if you don't

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by tyleo »

tcfhgj wrote: post #62
tyleo wrote: post #11

Vegetables are delicious. I wish vegan options would lean into this instead of trying to be fake meat. IMO grilled mushrooms are tastier than grilled goop pressed into burger form.

people obviously want fake meat/burgers without actual meat, even if you don't

People also want ultra processed food. I wouldn’t advocate a ban for any of these things—I eat them too—but it seems reasonable to want less focus on them and hope that companies could innovate or market other options.

The marketing and availability impact behavior.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by odyssey7 »

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #58
odyssey7 wrote: post #12

This move will expand the public's belief that regulation means "a ridiculous incursion of rights," leading to greater belief that society is better off without regulation.

There is a long history of legal use of words about what foods are. Like what you are allowed to call 'butter' or 'beer'. There's also the regional names like parmesan and champagne. This looks like its following that established norm.

Like Parmesan and Champagne, would you advocate that a beef patty is not a “hamburger” unless it was pressed in the “Hamburg” region of Germany?

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by Jensson »

FranzFerdiNaN wrote: post #54
GoToRO wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that on the packaging Burger will be written with huge letters and then vegan is metioned somewhere in a corner. I bought cheese that was not cheese :)) Imagine my disappointment.

Well, guess you learned a valuable lesson: always read packaging because corporations will go to any length to deceive you.

Or just make it illegal, that is less work overall.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by bzzzt »

ReptileMan wrote: post #13
bzzzt wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's reasonable regarding expectations, but the flip side is you can't make a vegan patty and call it 'vegan burger like patty'. The discussed regulation smells heavily of measures to protect the meat industry rather than the consumer who is absolutely able to discern between the classic and vegetarian alternatives.

How will it protect farmers? This won't change consumer habits one bit.

Why not? Consumers are more likely to give vegetarian products a chance when they are 'drop in' replacements. A 'vegetarian burger' instead of a 'burger' would sell better than a 'plant based patty'.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by Jensson »

notpushkin wrote: post #38
GoToRO wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that on the packaging Burger will be written with huge letters and then vegan is metioned somewhere in a corner. I bought cheese that was not cheese :)) Imagine my disappointment.

So maybe we should tackle the root cause somehow instead?

That is what they are doing here. Its less work for the few people who wanna call it veggie burger to change than for everyone else to change.

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by saubeidl »

bzzzt wrote: post #66
ReptileMan wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How will it protect farmers? This won't change consumer habits one bit.

Why not? Consumers are more likely to give vegetarian products a chance when they are 'drop in' replacements. A 'vegetarian burger' instead of a 'burger' would sell better than a 'plant based patty'.

But plants also come from farms...

Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

t0rt01se wrote: post #14
bradley13 wrote: post #5

Some food labelling is misleading. One example I have seen ist (small) "veggie" (big) "CRISPY CHICKEN". But burger? Sure, burgers are often beef, but there have always been other kinds. "Chicken burger", "crab burger", so why not "veggie burger". The EU likes making regulations, to the point that they are killing their own industry

Ooc what did you mean by 'their own' industry? The industry of making regulations or the food industry?

I read it as general industry within the EU.
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