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Re: Buy European: EU Commissions New Apply AI Strategy Launched

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Post by stefanfisk »

johnofthesea wrote: post #38
stefanfisk wrote: post #35

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In Sweden you can technically get by with only a psychical ID. But even now when the number of people that only have a physical ID is low getting things done can be hard. Suddenly switching to physical ID only on asocialt wide basis would be comparable to going from almost exclusively shopping online to in-store cash only.

You don't have kodebrikke in Sweden? Just app?

Most banks supply some sort of hardware auth device. But those are only valid with the bank’s services.

Re: Buy European: EU Commissions New Apply AI Strategy Launched

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Post by az09mugen »

lossolo wrote: post #47
piva00 wrote: post #44

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You mean with the licencing of the EUV tech? If push comes to shove, to the point where the USA tries to strangle ASML, the EU could create pathways to not recognise the licence agreement anymore, and remove copyright protections from it. All the engineering part of that technology is in European hands, the royalties to EUV LLC are based on mutually beneficial arrangements, if it's weaponised all gloves are off.

And people forget what was actually licensed and what value does it have without ASML. ASML bought SVG lithography two decades ago to expand in dry/immersion optical litho and US market access. EUV matured later. SVG had momentum in DUV and still couldn't sustain at 193nm while EUV is an order of magnitude more complex. Cymer was ASML's light source supplier that ASML later acquired in 2013. Pre acquisition there wer…

Thanks for that enlightenment.

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Post by az09mugen »

vachina wrote: post #20
shevy-java wrote: post #12

My problem with the EU overall, aside from being inefficient, is that they don't really push towards intrinsic perfection. They kind of look what others do, try to simulate and copy it, usually fail - and then the same pattern is repeated. Just take the issue of a european chip industry. Or literally anything China is doing now. The EU just isn't really a driver - it is a maintainer at best. And that also means it wi…

They’re not looking for perfection, they’re looking to remove paying compute taxes to the US, and keep IP and knowledge within EU.

The Italian company Arduino is the perfect counterexample : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arduino

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Post by graemep »

Epa095 wrote: post #60
graemep wrote: post #57

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If pensions come from government funds it matters if you are looking at the impact on the economy. The taxes pensioners paid have presumably been spent, so while their past contribution is an argument for their entitlement to pensions, it does not solve the problem of where the money will come from. Its even worse in the UK where we have a special additional income tax (NI) on earned income (things like investment in…

It does not really make a big difference if the pensioner saved 100k while working and put it in their couch, or if they payed it in ekstra taxes which got saved by the government, or if the government presses new money. The important part is how large fraction of the population work, not where the money for the remaining fraction comes from. Money is only a representation of value, value created by the working fract…

True, but that is at a different level and a bit more complex. I was talking about the problem of government finances - i.e. government revenue vs expenditure.

Setting aside money, and where you put it, makes a big difference. It might be in a sovereign wealth fund, or used to finance govt debt (as in the small fund that exists in the UK) or invested in shares by a private pension fund, or be a liability of a past employer. In some of those cases value might be generated in another country.

You are right in principle but there are big practical differences too.

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Post by hulitu »

sofixa wrote: post #59
graemep wrote: post #49

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> Also, it's a bit weird to claim the EU never tries to push for perfection and just copies - this is the organisation that brought us USB C as the one and only standard for everything Not the same as inventing USB, and I am far from sure its a good thing. > he right to be forgotten and the right to digital privacy Right to privacy in various forms far predates the EU. > competition on railway networks EU-wide A copy…

> and I am far from sure its a good thing. Why? It's good for consumers (more practical) and the planet (less ewaste). > Right to privacy in various forms far predates the EU. Online? As a concept yes, but as a legal framework, not really. > A copy of a policy of a country that has left the EU, and is far from popular there, and looks like being reversed there. The UK system isn't actual competition though. There are…

> less ewaste

You might not be aware of the many USB standards: A, B, C, 1.1, 2, 3, 3.1, 3.2 - each with own devices and sometimes cables

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Post by vachina »

az09mugen wrote: post #63
vachina wrote: post #20

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They’re not looking for perfection, they’re looking to remove paying compute taxes to the US, and keep IP and knowledge within EU.

The Italian company Arduino is the perfect counterexample : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arduino

Arduino is either sell or die. They chose to sell. Nobody sells a profit making stint.

Re: Buy European: EU Commissions New Apply AI Strategy Launched

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Post by az09mugen »

vachina wrote: post #67
az09mugen wrote: post #63

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The Italian company Arduino is the perfect counterexample : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arduino

Arduino is either sell or die. They chose to sell. Nobody sells a profit making stint.

Linus Torvald is Finnish when he creates his first Linux kernel. Guido Van Rossum is Dutch and created Python. Yeah, please tell me more about EU wanting to keep IP and knowledge.
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