Live data from Hacker News

Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

pewresearch.org

61–70 of 525 posts

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#61
I mean, yes, but it's so far down the list of bad things for society we're facing right now.

I'd rather we tackle the root problems leading to these. Increase education rather than reduce liberties.

I'm not, like, strongly opposed to reducing this particular liberty, but man it's not my first priority.

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#63
post #58
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it does not infringe on anyone else's God-given rights Gamblers have lost their homes as a result of their addiction, I think that impact on their families counts for something.

[flagged]

Yes, they chose their genes and the structure of their brain after all, how irresponsible of them! /s

In general, something that happens at scale and consistently is not an individual problem.

You have whole armies of very well funded designers of things like processed food, or games, working to deliberate find the faults in human brains, and to make politicians make the laws that lets them do it legally, and you say it's the fault of the individual that falls for it?

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#64
post #24

I happen to enjoy sports gambling and would be sad to see it disappear. I'm writing this because I want you to know what you're depriving me of. Because _other_ people make poor decisions, we need to take that decision away from everyone.

The entire business model depends on most people losing, and those losses often come from people who can't afford it, the industry is structured to aggressively market, addict, and exploit psychological weaknesses, it's engineered dependence

> Because _other_ people make poor decisions, we need to take that decision away from everyone.

Sports betting is to entertainment what ultra-processed food is to nutrition, engineered to be addictive, marketed as "pleasure" and technically a personal choice, but built on exploiting human psychology

You can enjoy a burger or a bet responsibly, sure, but the problem is the systemic design, it's optimized for overconsumption and dependency, not well being, you end up creating problems whole society have to pay for it, it's systemic harm

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#65
post #63
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Yes, they chose their genes and the structure of their brain after all, how irresponsible of them! /s In general, something that happens at scale and consistently is not an individual problem. You have whole armies of very well funded designers of things like processed food, or games, working to deliberate find the faults in human brains, and to make politicians make the laws that lets them do it legally, and you say…

[flagged]

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#66
The role of gambling in society has massively expanded in the past 25 years.

Legalization of sports betting, online poker, and meme cryptocurrencies are all highly visible examples of normalized gambling. Young people increasingly seem to believe that they need to gamble to get anywhere in life.

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#67
The legalization and popularity of gambling is more than just an immoral activity that has negative societal effects. It’s reflective of people losing hope in the system’s ability to make their lives better.

Gambling thrives in contexts where a ladder to success doesn’t exist or is perceived as not existing. If hard work or time doesn’t make your life better, then fate is just chance, and you might as well throw your money at something that has the possibility of making your rich, no matter how tiny that likelihood.

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#68
post #40

Is it bad for society? It's certainly bad for individuals, and by extension their families. I guess if it scales up such that a serious chunk of society is affected, then yes its bad for society. Let's start with the obvious- in all forms of gambling the gamblers make a net loss. The games are hosted by very sophisticated companies, that have better mathematicians, and make money. $x is pumped into the system by the…

> It's certainly bad for individuals, and by extension their families. When gambler makes debt, then the partner gets half the debt in divorce. And they have to pay it. It is not bad for families just "by extension". It is directly harming the family members even after the divorce.

Personal gambling debt is individual unless credited to a joint account no?

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while they tend to be absent from more affluent ones. It’s not that they don’t want to be, it’s that affluent neighborhoods tend to keep things that are considered “low class” out of them. The only Safeway in my city that doesn’t sell lottery tickets is the one in the most affluent neighborhood.

I bet the better off do gamble on the financial markets though

When they do it, it's gambling. When we do it, it's investing.

Re: Americans increasingly see legal sports betting as a bad thing for society

#70

I left my home country over 10 years ago, and ever since I've travelled back once every 1 or 2 years. Since 4-5 years ago I started to notice these betting houses cropping up where my family and friends live. They are impossible to miss, with big pictures of different sports and no windows. The most important thing to notice is where these place are and are not. They proliferate in working class and less well off nei…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN