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Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by facundo_olano »

silcoon wrote: post #20

I thought about a similar problems because I always find really interesting blogs (mostly on HN) but I don't have a real place to store them, so they get lost when I close the tab. I can save them in the favorites but I'm not used to check favorites regularly. Feeds are a tangent solution because they give you only the new stuff. Feeds transform blogs into social media platforms where what matter is the new fresh con…

I have the same issue, the chronological nature of feeds kind of breaks this flow. It feels like there’s a missing piece, like a standard to browse older content from a blog. I Wrote a bit about this here: https://olano.dev/blog/web-anthologists/

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by hopelite »

onli wrote: post #57
geerlingguy wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And even better, there used to be a concept of "pingback", back before it was just abused by spammers, where you could connect blog posts together (the OG "react" medium) through a ping mechanism that was at least in Wordpress, not sure about other platforms. But I found a ton of great blogs just scanning through other people's blogrolls.

WordPress still has those, or are they disabled by now for new blogs? I get them from WordPress blogs sometimes instead of the nicer trackbacks, same thing without xmlrpc. Webmentions are an orthogonal newer system, basically incompatible trackbacks. Serendipity implements all three now, so there are definitely still blog engines that support these mechanisms.

New internet rule: When the name of a service/software is a common word in any language that already has a meaning, we must escape it if the context is lacking that would indicate it’s title property.

Examples: /Serendipity, /Sheets, /News /Numbers, /Files, /Drive, /Translate, /Play, etc.

Exceptions: If the context is clear, i.e., in a text talking about Google assets where News, Sheets, Drive, Play, are mentioned; or one prefixes the context with “The software Serendipity…”.

We should not assume everyone in the world knows every single title of every single software and service.

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by AlienRobot »

silcoon wrote: post #20

I thought about a similar problems because I always find really interesting blogs (mostly on HN) but I don't have a real place to store them, so they get lost when I close the tab. I can save them in the favorites but I'm not used to check favorites regularly. Feeds are a tangent solution because they give you only the new stuff. Feeds transform blogs into social media platforms where what matter is the new fresh con…

Why not just bookmark it in your web browser? Or create a Tumblr blog and make a new post for every cool article you find. You can set and edit the tags later if you want for searchability.

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by onli »

hopelite wrote: post #62
onli wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

WordPress still has those, or are they disabled by now for new blogs? I get them from WordPress blogs sometimes instead of the nicer trackbacks, same thing without xmlrpc. Webmentions are an orthogonal newer system, basically incompatible trackbacks. Serendipity implements all three now, so there are definitely still blog engines that support these mechanisms.

New internet rule: When the name of a service/software is a common word in any language that already has a meaning, we must escape it if the context is lacking that would indicate it’s title property. Examples: /Serendipity, /Sheets, /News /Numbers, /Files, /Drive, /Translate, /Play, etc. Exceptions: If the context is clear, i.e., in a text talking about Google assets where News, Sheets, Drive, Play, are mentioned; o…

Well, context. We are talking CMS or blog engines, and "blogengine Serendipity" does find it as first at first place, so does "cms serendipity". But for the log, I was talking about https://docs.s9y.org/.

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by p5v »

re wrote: post #36

> The idea is to create another page on your blog that has all the RSS feeds you're subscribed to. By keeping this public and always up to date, someone can visit your page, find someone new and follow them. Perhaps that person also has a feeds page, and the cycle continues until there is a natural and organic network of people all sharing with each other. So if you have a blog, consider making a feeds page and shari…

We have a very similar feature on https://feedle.world. Every search has its own dedicated RSS feed that can new followed directly, as well as an iframe that can be embedded on other people’s websites. This way, anyone can build accidental blogrolls, based o topics of interest.

P.S. for people whore not really into RSS, we are also Beta testing the option to subscribe to searches and get results in email digests. Same idea, but you don’t need to bother finding an RSS reader.

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by Towaway69 »

Wasn't the idea of Yahoo! Pipes[1] the aggregration of RSS feeds? It actually did that and did a really good job of it. I would prefer something visual like Yahoo! Pipes for aggregating RSS feeds - everything else is just another list...

Then we could all share our pipes and build better ones on top of existing pipes. The thing with Pipes was that you could also filter feeds and use Pipes as feeds for other pipes ... Yahoo! Pipes was a great product that was way ahead of its time.

If anyone is interested in actually replicating this, then I would suggest using Node-RED[2] as a stand-in for Pipes.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Pipes

[2]: https://nodered.org

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by Anaminus »

I was going to ask, is there a standard for this sort of thing? Then I realized that it's just references in the form of text. Hypertext, if you will. We should make a markup language for it.

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by onli »

Towaway69 wrote: post #66

Wasn't the idea of Yahoo! Pipes[1] the aggregration of RSS feeds? It actually did that and did a really good job of it. I would prefer something visual like Yahoo! Pipes for aggregating RSS feeds - everything else is just another list... Then we could all share our pipes and build better ones on top of existing pipes. The thing with Pipes was that you could also filter feeds and use Pipes as feeds for other pipes ...…

Maybe also have a look at my https://www.pipes.digital/ if you want that :) Filtering and merging RSS feeds is the main use case, and I made sure to have some features to enable building on top of other pipes (a prominent fork button for shared pipes and a pipe block).

Re: Blog Feeds

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Post by Towaway69 »

onli wrote: post #68
Towaway69 wrote: post #66

Wasn't the idea of Yahoo! Pipes[1] the aggregration of RSS feeds? It actually did that and did a really good job of it. I would prefer something visual like Yahoo! Pipes for aggregating RSS feeds - everything else is just another list... Then we could all share our pipes and build better ones on top of existing pipes. The thing with Pipes was that you could also filter feeds and use Pipes as feeds for other pipes ...…

Maybe also have a look at my https://www.pipes.digital/ if you want that :) Filtering and merging RSS feeds is the main use case, and I made sure to have some features to enable building on top of other pipes (a prominent fork button for shared pipes and a pipe block).

Great stuff :) That's exactly what I meant :thumbsup:

I actually found www.pipes.digital in my mind map with a comment to the effect that it's a Yahoo! pipes replacement - so I come across it a year ago in fact.

I'm sticking to Node-RED simply because that's what I know - also its open source and very extendable, so that's why its my cup of tea.

EDIT: Pipes is also open source --> https://github.com/pipes-digital/pipes --> sorry didn't see that.

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