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Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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Couldn't someone port that to a WEB interface ? Then you access it via Firefox. Maybe a PITA to use compared to a app, but at least it could not be banned.

Despite how shitty Google and Apple are being, this is probably the best way to accomplish the project's goal in a reasonable timeframe.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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Some people are still under the impression that they live in a democratic republic under a constitutional doctrine of permissive freedom and the rule of law.

A nuisance app that generated zero revenue for these app stores was used in a murder. It’s a PR no-brainer to simply remove it just as they constantly remove other apps for all sorts of reasons.

A perfectly legal application was arbitrarily removed from distribution without any due process because it displeases those in power.

Funny how perspective on things can change depending of the amount of boot licking people enjoy.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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Please direct me to the general computer in a phone form factor that isn't some fiddly Linux gadget. What e-reader doesn't allow side-loading books?

Ah the old "I want freedom but I refuse to accept any inconvenience to get it"

I don't know how I would live my life without access to mainstream mobile apps. I have to use an app to pay for the laundry machine in my apartment building. At school—I'm a teacher nowadays—we use an app to mark student attendance during fire drills.

Freedom of speech should not require living in the woods secluded from society. It is the responsibility of all of us—especially major institutions—to work to preserve that. I can't do it on my own.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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Giving your lunch money to a bully all but guarantees they'll be back for more.

This is literally how extortion by organized crime works. It's the same mechanism. Of course they'll be back for more, but if you don't give them your money, they will beat the shit out of you and then come back for more anyway. You know what's expected of you, and the alternatives are generally much worse. Incidentally it's also a textbook presentation of the Manufacturing Consent Propaganda model, except it's not o…

Except Apple and Google are incredibly powerful, and the Trump administration has shown they mostly fail to follow on their threats (yet, at least). If some entities are able to stand up against the nascent fascist regime, it's them. But as we all know, corporations and fascism are like peanut butter and jelly.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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Please direct me to the general computer in a phone form factor that isn't some fiddly Linux gadget. What e-reader doesn't allow side-loading books?

Ah the old "I want freedom but I refuse to accept any inconvenience to get it"

If you expect people to take real-life inconvenience over an abstract perceived freedom you will be disappointed until the day you die. People buy computing devices to do things. If the device has freedom but can't do the things they want it's a really cool paperweight.

Streaming services which lock you into DRM won over the slightly inconvenient but free thing.

Your time will always better be spent getting government to make the convenient thing more free than trying to move a river by gathering people with buckets.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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I’d say this is a perfect candidate for a web app / PWA.

Government will just hijack the domain as they have with torrents and other things they don't like

Am working on a mobile app that requires in person keygen/sharing via Bluetooth, syncs selected data between devices once keys exchanged and new local IP is shared (over something like Signal; discovery is hard/expensive so I am going with a low tech manual option to notify peers how to reconnect)

Flood the field with alternatives to keep The Man on his toes and distracted.

The main problem with hyper normalized and streamlined society is it just makes it easier for The Man to spot and squash dissent. What is dissent when the people are peacefully not following orders by making passive surveillance difficult.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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> “removed apps that share the location of what it describes as a vulnerable group after a recent violent act against them connected to this sort of app" Apparently armed, masked thugs covered in body armor dragging people off the street for the federal government count as a "vulnerable group" now?

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How many ICE officers were shot?

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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Neither ICEBlock nor Red Dot are OSS. Seems a little hypocritical. Why not provide the code on GitHub? Why not offer alternative download sources?

That there isn't a free software implementation here is indeed bad. Trying to fight about software liberties at this moment when the apps are being de-facto banned is Just Not the Time.

But absolutely start a project under a permissive license. That's a great idea.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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"vulnerable group" Google, name your non-vulnerable groups. Could those being taken away be considered a "vulnerable group" or a non-vulnerable group? This is pure hypocrisy in the wild.

The right wing's long-cultivated victimhood narrative is reaching its natural climax. Nowadays you can literally be the boot stomping on a human face forever and also be a victim because you stubbed your toe.

Re: Google removes ICE-spotting app following Apple's ICEBlock crackdown

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> “removed apps that share the location of what it describes as a vulnerable group after a recent violent act against them connected to this sort of app" Apparently armed, masked thugs covered in body armor dragging people off the street for the federal government count as a "vulnerable group" now?

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A mentally ill right-winger 4chan edgelord shooting at immigrants, to be precise. No ICE officers were harmed in this hatecrime, don't you worry.
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