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Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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The nice thing about sticks is when you go on trips or vacation. You’re authenticated into all of your subscriptions already and don’t have to sign in. The convenience of using sticks they eliminate the need to sign in at hotels or other places, which is why I love them.

id say is a fairly niche use case, people tend to disconnect outside when going on vacation not watch netflix from the hotel.

I like to travel, in particular road trips and disconnecting is often part of that. Even then, I'm not much of a nightlife person so will often still watch TV for a couple hours at night before bed.

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post #7

I'm wondering if this is what they themselves use for developing the Prime Video app? At least on LG, it's by far the slowest, laggiest and most broken app our family sometimes use.

It's not the tech for the most part... it's how Amazon is using it. For comparison, Netflix uses React and React-Native as does Facebook and their apps perform pretty well.

> It's not the tech for the most part... it's how Amazon is using it

Yeah, so I mean if Amazon then developers their own framework + OS on top of React Native, how well do we think that'll go, if they're unable to use things well?

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post #7

I'm wondering if this is what they themselves use for developing the Prime Video app? At least on LG, it's by far the slowest, laggiest and most broken app our family sometimes use.

All Amazon apps are buggy and broken. The Amazon shopping app is awful, a bunch of put together web pages hanging on for dear life. Amazon optimise for sales and metrics over anything else.

I learned my lesson to not trust amazon after sagemaker, some of their core services are good and well done.

Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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post #7

I'm wondering if this is what they themselves use for developing the Prime Video app? At least on LG, it's by far the slowest, laggiest and most broken app our family sometimes use.

My information is largely out of date, but Vega is aimed squarely at Fire devices. I expect LG devices largely use the web based Prime Video app that runs on most living room devices. LG TVs capabilities and performance from an app developer perspective is... not great.

> LG TVs capabilities and performance from an app developer perspective is... not great.

Yet every other app on the TV seems to work just fine, with minimal latency and smooth animations. YouTube, HBO, Jellyfin, Netflix, Rakuten even the Vodafone TV application runs smoother, and it's generally the worst of the apps (sans Prime).

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post #7

I'm wondering if this is what they themselves use for developing the Prime Video app? At least on LG, it's by far the slowest, laggiest and most broken app our family sometimes use.

My information is largely out of date, but Vega is aimed squarely at Fire devices. I expect LG devices largely use the web based Prime Video app that runs on most living room devices. LG TVs capabilities and performance from an app developer perspective is... not great.

No big complaints with WebOS, and actually I find it more enjoyable as user than Android TV.

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post #23

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I own multiple FireTVs, Google’s Android TV, and an Apple TV and for almost everything I do the AppleTV is far ahead. The only thing the FireTV had as an edge was the Xbox game streaming app which worked fine over WiFi6E. Otherwise it was absolutely ad-ridden, poor UI/UX, and Amazon’s apps suck on any platform. Since I no longer use the Xbox stuff, the stick and the older versions I have line the bottom of some drawe…

The delta in power between Apple TVs and most other streaming boxes/dongles is absurd. Even the now ancient 2017 Apple TV 4K has the muscle to brute force decode a lot of video that isn’t natively hardware accelerated, meanwhile there’s piles of brand new boxes/dongles that are hopelessly weak and don’t have a prayer of being able to handle the same files. The gap is more like a canyon if comparing against the curren…

It's incredible how consistently bad Set Top Box (and now some embedded-in-tv) products have been, going all the way back to the 90s. It's like every one of these STB manufacturers follows the same playbook: 1. Cut hardware performance down to the absolute bare minimum required to decode some insufficiently selected, average quality video. 2. Make interaction with a remote control as laggy and painful as possible, while also providing stupid [company specific] buttons on the remote that nobody uses. 3. Have no consistent design language or apparent UX research for the software's on-screen GUI, using misaligned clipart images and fixed-width shit-tier fonts for text. I used to even develop these boxes back in the day, and they've always been neglected engineering-wise, built by the lowest bidder so they are as cheap and fragile as humanly possible.

Re: Amazon Vega OS and Vega Developer Tools

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post #13

I find Amazon’s software for streaming much slower and buggier than other providers. The streams too also seem to have more issues.

I wonder if the Vega stuff will be much better. There's really nothing to like about the Fire TV sticks. I bought the 4K Max thinking it might be the best option for 4K streaming from all of the major providers as an upgrade for my aging Mi Box (3, I think); aside from the home screen being majority advert, the AV sync is constantly out and differs per-app, so changing it for one makes another worse, WiFi signal is p…

> I wonder if the Vega stuff will be much better. There's really nothing to like about the Fire TV sticks.

I had one for a bit for the purpose of sideloading FreeTube via adb (I think it was called). That's the only good I can say about it.

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