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Re: iPhone 5 review

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I don't understand why the back isn't all glass or all aluminum. The two seams on the back don't appear to be functional or visually appealing. Can anyone explain what the deal is?

Some have said it may be to improved antenna/wireless comms performance

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Going with Maps over Google Maps is one of the worst regressions I've seen in an OS/Software in a long time. Google Map's is simply brilliant, the de-facto standard, always being improved, flawless in a sense and these guys go with their own mapping software. It really blows my mind. I'm thinking it's simple arrogance on the iOS teams part (perhaps management as well). I've read many stories of how big of an asshole…

> Again, can't make this call until I play with the device. Stated right after you appear to have made the call. Ballsy. > The 4S has an A5X, I bet the performance benchmarks are negligible between the two. I'll take that bet. "The iPhone 5's A6 processor appears to be roughly twice as fast as any chip in an existing iOS product, if results posted by Geekbench prove to be accurate." http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-…

Just a minor nitpick out of his huge troll rant but the 4S does not have an A5X. The A5X is only in the new iPad; the 4S has the A5.

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The more I see that Lightning port, I can't help but wonder why they didn't just do the obvious and go for micro USB. I'm wholly confident Apple could design the highest of quality micro USB connector to satisfy even the biggest of haters that claim its too flimsy while silencing the constant gripe of obsolescence.

I like how the Lightning jack has its contacts exposed, making it prone to shorts and other mishaps. The name is appropriate! (with most other connectors, the powered side is recessed or the contacts are protected somehow)

Not to mention the need to tweezer-clean the pocket lint on a weekly basis.

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Micro-USB is not reversible. Spend any time with an iPad or iPhone, try plugging it in in a dark room, and you'll curse Apple for having such a lame 30-pin connector. Problem solved, finally. In fairness, it's hard to make a 30-pin connector reversible. And Apple probably didn't want to annoy legions of customers by switching until they had something that was incontrovertibly better, and that they could hang their ha…

Most microUSB cables have an engraved USB logo on the top of the cable. Once you realize that it quickly becomes a habit to ensure that your thumb is on the logo when plugging it in and you get it right every time, even in the dark. Throw out any cables that don't do this.

Even with the engraving, I still miss with microUSB upwards of 60% of the time in the dark, and upwards of 30% of the time in the light (I also miss with regular USB connectors). See also this proof that USB connectors/cables exist in 4D space: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2388

Strong reversible or universal connections are the way to go—and none of the USB standards are it. By universal, I mean like the nearly-ubiquitous circular plugs, but not the circular plugs—as I have yet to find one that is quality on both sides of the equation. I had a laptop die because of one of those plugs, and it wasn't the male part of the plug, but the female part. The female receptacle was slowly but surely pushed off the motherboard.

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Sure, comparisons with the 920 or GSIII are interesting to those who are watching the market, but frankly only comparisons to previous iPhones are useful. Nowadays iPhones and flagship Androids have gotten good enough that the pain of switching ecosystems far outweighs any benefit to be gained by switching ecosystems.

I disagree. After using and enjoying my iPhone 4 for quite a while my next phone is going to be android, to see how the other half lives. $10 in the play store and a few hours making sure all my settings are synched should be sufficient (and the synching I would have had to do anyway to go from iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5).

I've been in the ecosystem since the original iPhone. Switching would involve a significant time and money outlay as I figure out what apps I should replace my current apps with and outlay the money to do so. It would easily wind up costing me as much as the phone.

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I find it interesting that everyone is talking about the screen size instead of the screen technology. The CNET review[1] and I'm sure others often show them side by side with the iPhone 5 brighter! , when of course it's like the before/after pictures on TV and could very well just be the slider setting. I'm also waiting to hear better estimates for battery life -- why is talktime the best standard when no one I know…

iOS 6 better let me turn off LTE with less than 6 taps

I wouldn't count on that. It wouldn't even surprise me if they didn't provide a setting to do that at all, after all, there is no way to turn of 3G in the settings.

You might have to jailbreak to get that capability.

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Micro-USB is not reversible. Spend any time with an iPad or iPhone, try plugging it in in a dark room, and you'll curse Apple for having such a lame 30-pin connector. Problem solved, finally. In fairness, it's hard to make a 30-pin connector reversible. And Apple probably didn't want to annoy legions of customers by switching until they had something that was incontrovertibly better, and that they could hang their ha…

Most microUSB cables have an engraved USB logo on the top of the cable. Once you realize that it quickly becomes a habit to ensure that your thumb is on the logo when plugging it in and you get it right every time, even in the dark. Throw out any cables that don't do this.

I'd bet lots of people won't realise that and won't make an attempt to learn that way of doing it. For them the problem will just just be a temporary, minor -- but frequently repeated -- inconvenience that they won't ever really pay much attention to.

I think it'd be far better to completely remove the opportunity for doing it wrong in the first place.

If you'll permit me to rant a bit here, why is it that IT people seem to so frequently respond to some non-optimum feature of software or hardware with a response that comes down to "but it's possible to work around it" as if that was the only legitimate option? Does this also happen in other fields?

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I disagree. After using and enjoying my iPhone 4 for quite a while my next phone is going to be android, to see how the other half lives. $10 in the play store and a few hours making sure all my settings are synched should be sufficient (and the synching I would have had to do anyway to go from iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5).

I've been in the ecosystem since the original iPhone. Switching would involve a significant time and money outlay as I figure out what apps I should replace my current apps with and outlay the money to do so. It would easily wind up costing me as much as the phone.

It depends on how many applications you use very regularly. Games pretty much get old as you complete them. When it comes to the rest of the apps, I doubt an average person buys more than a few bucks worth of non-game apps.

smartphone costs a few thousand dollars to own over a couple of years. Cost of apps is bust a small portion of that cost.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, comparisons with the 920 or GSIII are interesting to those who are watching the market, but frankly only comparisons to previous iPhones are useful. Nowadays iPhones and flagship Androids have gotten good enough that the pain of switching ecosystems far outweighs any benefit to be gained by switching ecosystems.

I disagree. After using and enjoying my iPhone 4 for quite a while my next phone is going to be android, to see how the other half lives. $10 in the play store and a few hours making sure all my settings are synched should be sufficient (and the synching I would have had to do anyway to go from iPhone 4 -> iPhone 5).

but how long in the play store to find good replacements for your iOS apps?

(btw, I'm not at all saying there aren't good replacements, just that you have to learn about which ones these are. The same argument could be made with regards to switching from Android to iOS).

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I find it interesting that everyone is talking about the screen size instead of the screen technology. The CNET review[1] and I'm sure others often show them side by side with the iPhone 5 brighter! , when of course it's like the before/after pictures on TV and could very well just be the slider setting. I'm also waiting to hear better estimates for battery life -- why is talktime the best standard when no one I know…

iOS 6 better let me turn off LTE with less than 6 taps I wouldn't count on that. It wouldn't even surprise me if they didn't provide a setting to do that at all, after all, there is no way to turn of 3G in the settings. You might have to jailbreak to get that capability.

> after all, there is no way to turn of 3G in the settings

There is on my 4S running iOS6 (and I'm sure it was there on my old 3GS...) :-

Settings > General > Mobile > Enable 3G (toggle switch)

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