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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by swiftcoder »

formerly_proven wrote: post #41

> I occasionally see people saying “well, if you don’t want to be in photos published online, don’t be in public spaces”. > This is nonsense, for a number of reasons. Clearly, one should be able to exist in society, including going outside one’s own home, without needing to accept this kind of thing. In the US the legal doctrine is no privacy at all in public spaces (a lot more expansive than that actually), that's p…

There are plenty of US states with two-party consent for recording (audio, mostly, but in some cases video as well)

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by andersa »

Gigachad wrote: post #51
eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

I’m Gen Z and I get how someone could be annoyed by this, but it’s also just part of life. I get annoyed when people smoke in public or pointlessly honk horns at night. But you have to accept that being around other people means some people do things you aren’t a fan of.

That's a completely ridiculous comparison. Pointlessly honking or smoking does not create a public record of your activities shared globally without your consent.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by Gigachad »

lm28469 wrote: post #30
ofrzeta wrote: post #9

Maybe off-topic and patronizing .. sorry about that. "Running around in the woods, firing small plastic pellets at other people, in pursuit of a contrived-to-be-fun mission, turns out to be, well, fun." I was wondering if there are no biodegradable bullets for Airsoft and found out that they exist. Maybe a better solution than plastic in the woods.

They make PLA ones, advertised as biodegradable, but AFAIK the settings for them to biodegrade never happen in nature, it's ever so slightly better than the alternatives but far from perfect, or even good. https://www.filamentive.com/the-truth-about-the-biodegradabi... > PLA is only biodegradable under industrial composting conditions and anaerobic digestion – there is no evidence of PLA being biodegradable in soil,…

PLA is also commonly mixed with mystery additives which likely aren’t biodegradable at all.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by mothballed »

eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

Every airsoft event I've been to has been on private property.

Solution here is to use a private airsoft field then make no filming a condition of entry. If they violate the rule, trespass.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by crazygringo »

andersa wrote: post #56
crazygringo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And your want to make that the law, so you get fined or go to jail if you don't blur everyone's face on every photo you post if you haven't gotten a signed consent from them?

Yes.

Well, thanks for being honest.

That's not a world I would want to live in, and I guess I'm thankful most other people don't either.

The ability to photograph is important for accountability and truth in a democracy, it's important to families wanting to document and share their trips easily, and it's important for art, among many other things. Fundamentally, it feels like a kind of freedom to me.

But it's interesting to see there are people who disagree.

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

crazygringo wrote: post #24
brna-2 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think bigger - public spaces, streets, in general. Would be nice to solve this.

I disagree. It wouldn't be nice to solve it, because it would mean nobody could ever take a picture of anything where there might be anyone recognizable in the background, without getting them to sign some kind of model release first. Is that what you want? For innocent photography in public to be essentially outlawed?

The article is discussing a private rather than public space. We've got loads of private places where photography is restricted - usually when that space involves physical exercise (gyms, pools, etc).

I don't think it's unreasonable to have a level-headed discussion about how society and technology have evolved since those norms came into practice, and if they should be expanded now that photography is ubiquitous.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by maxehmookau »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #53
maxehmookau wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, because he's right, it is a free country. He shouldn't be arrested, or thrown in prison for it. But I'm also free to apply societal pressure to behave like a grown-up.

> societal pressure to behave like a grown-up. I think this is the key. It might be legal, but it's not polite. It's a bit like blasting crappy music from your phone on the bus without headphones. Grown ups should know better.

> It might be legal, but it's not polite.

Too many folks forget this.

Do what you want, but I'll tell you if I don't like it. Others might too.

They're not infringing on your rights, but it might make you a little uncomfortable.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by andersa »

crazygringo wrote: post #14

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

We should be entitled to that.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by siva7 »

spicyusername wrote: post #44
eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

My kids are in elementary and middle school and there was an occasion where they were at a birthday party where an older sibling was live streaming the event. Both my kids (and me) found it very off-putting, so there's some anecdata that at least some young kids still feel it's an invasion of privacy. Maybe not all is lost.

There are lots of young people who have some conception and respect of privacy and there are people who haven't. That's not a generational thing.. It's just that those without awareness of boundaries have now all the tech that screams in their face to stream everything to the world without consent. I can assure you that still lots of young folks are annoyed by those people.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by AlecSchueler »

spicyusername wrote: post #44
eterm wrote: post #29

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here. I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't. I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with…

My kids are in elementary and middle school and there was an occasion where they were at a birthday party where an older sibling was live streaming the event. Both my kids (and me) found it very off-putting, so there's some anecdata that at least some young kids still feel it's an invasion of privacy. Maybe not all is lost.

My own anecdotal experience is that the generational gap is actually the inverse of what was described above. Younger people seem to be very much moree acutely aware of the dangers of publicity and much more guarded about what they do in public if it could potentially end up online.
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