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Gentoo Linux might be the best desktop Linux distro for advanced Linux users

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Re: Gentoo Linux might be the best desktop Linux distro for advanced Linux users

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Post by throwaway1832 »

amano-kenji wrote: post #56
runjake wrote: post #42

It might be, but Arch is pretty solid and my favorite. Regardless, both distributions have a place in the world and I'm not too concerned with the best , that's too subjective. Why are Overlays better than AUR?

AUR is one repository where you can't just update an outdated package maintained by someone else who quietly gave up maintenance. I have my own gentoo overlay where I have complete control. This sovereignty is really good for me. I can't stand waiting for permissions to take over maintenance of an outdated AUR package. If you don't have your own platform, you are a peasant. Also, pacman can't handle AUR. gentoo's eme…

> Also, pacman can't handle AUR.

This just shows that you don't have a good understanding of how pacman(8) or makepkg(8) operates on Arch Linux.

makepkg is the command that builds the actual packages from PKGBUILDs, pacman' job is to install those packages.

makepkg unlike paru is not a wrapper and is part of pacman itself.

Re: Gentoo Linux might be the best desktop Linux distro for advanced Linux users

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Post by d3Xt3r »

amano-kenji wrote: post #58
d3Xt3r wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the binary packages are still only available upto x86-64-v3, so users on x86-64-v4 (which I reckon what majority of "advanced" users would be using) and even more so AMD Zen 4/5 users would be missing out on advanced instructions and other compile optimisations. Luckily Arch/CachyOS users don't have to worry about this as CachyOS offers optimised packages for modern CPUs. Until Gentoo offers an equivale…

Most advanced users don't really care much about latest compiler optimizations. I don't. I think linus torvalds still just runs GNOME or KDE on fedora. Linus doesn't care about compiler optimizations on his own machines. Does a web developer need to know latest compiler optimizations? Most of them don't.

Respectfully disagree, the kind of "advanced" users who typically use Gentoo actually do care about compiler optimisations.

If you use Gentoo and don't care about it, I'd say you're in the minority of those users.

Re: Gentoo Linux might be the best desktop Linux distro for advanced Linux users

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Post by jcalvinowens »

qmr wrote: post #55
jcalvinowens wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Machines are faster now, my znver5 build machine finishes "emerge -e @world" in under an hour.

... which is an argument against trying to hyper optimize.

That doesn't make any sense.

Re: Gentoo Linux might be the best desktop Linux distro for advanced Linux users

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Post by yme1984 »

Wow, I didn't know Gentoo is still around. I was on Gentoo for a while back in 2001-2002 or so. Wonderful distro. What a treat after Red Hat Linux 6.2. Then, a few years later, I switched to Linux Mint etc. Nowadays, I'm on macOS, but when I have a bit more time, I will give Gentoo a go again.

Re: Gentoo Linux might be the best desktop Linux distro for advanced Linux users

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Post by boawsome123 »

_davide_ wrote: post #14

I have been using Gentoo 10+ years, you can save time using other distros but you'll waste an insane amount of time as soon as you want to properly configure a yubikey or set up a modern compilation stack (or update specific drivers or fixing the kernel). Compiling everything seems like an overkill, but remember it's unattended time, just start the upgrade before dinner twice a week and you'll be good to go. (Failure…

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