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Just let me select text

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Re: Just let me select text

#61

use android/ gemini circle to search

I can see this comment was downvoted because it doesn't address the main point but Circle to Search is genuinely a good, helpful feature. It allows you to copy or translate text in two or three taps, even faster than if you had selection power, and I hope more platforms add similar functionality (even if just to work around the current terrible state of text selection).

Re: Just let me select text

#62
post #17

We need a browser extension that treats the rendered page as an image, then runs OCR over it, then converts that to something where text can be selected. Pros: 1. safer (what you see is what you select), 2. also works with images, 3. all text can be selected

On iOS and Macs, just take a screenshot and then select the automatically OCR'd text. Works flawlessly.

Re: Just let me select text

#63
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% disagree. Not everyone is fluent in every language, and not every website works perfectly with the browser's translator. There will be situations where people will want to translate that ONE word that is actually in a button or tab, and isn't selectable because someone thought they knew better.

isn't selectable because it breaks the UX for keyboard-only users. Has nothing to do with "thinking" anything. It's about testing with accessibility parameters and knowing* what practical problems occur. If you really need to translate ONE WORD, it's not that onerous to type it. You're bringing edge-case hypotheticals to a discussion about practical functionality.

While I agree with you in general, keep in mind that there are plenty of languages where seeing the characters doesn't give you any info about how to type them. No copy-paste means you'd need to rely on OCR.

Re: Just let me select text

#64
This is the exact definition of hypocrisy. Though it might be intentional and as a way of making fun of what OP is talking about.

Now to my actual response to this: there is a new official tool for Android devices that allows doing OCR, text selection (including copying), translation and even search, as well as reverse image search and music detection. I'm talking about the Circle to Search feature; it is a great thing wherever you look at it from. Especially for this exact situation.

I wish there were a similar tool for desktop OSes (Linux, windows, macOS) that is as easy to use as CTS.

Re: Just let me select text

#65
post #31

why do you think the German girl wants you to translate her profile?

That was not implied by the post.

The post implied the opposite. However, if the German girl writes in German, probably she wants to date in German, the dating platform follows her wish by making it hard to extract the text, translate it, and eventually waste her time.

Re: Just let me select text

#66
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

isn't selectable because it breaks the UX for keyboard-only users. Has nothing to do with "thinking" anything. It's about testing with accessibility parameters and knowing* what practical problems occur. If you really need to translate ONE WORD, it's not that onerous to type it. You're bringing edge-case hypotheticals to a discussion about practical functionality.

I already asked below, how and where does it break? Hacker News is fully selectable, and still fully useable with the keyboard. > it's not that onerous to type it. Yes it is, if I don't even know what the letters are. Not every country uses the latin alphabet. And not every people coming to latin-alphabet countries know what those letters are.

Give me an example of a real-world use case where this caused you an issue, and I'll show you where their UX design is poorly made, rather than a need for selectable text in a clickable element.

Re: Just let me select text

#67

Given that this page has the following styles which aren't applied anywhere else on the blog: body { -webkit-user-select: none; -webkit-touch-callout: none; -moz-user-select: none; -ms-user-select: none; user-select: none; } I think it's safe to assume that being unable to select text on this page is not unintentional, as several comments here assume, nor "ironic", but an intentional effort to demonstrate how annoyin…

I don't know why so many comments are discussing "if it's intentional troll or hypocrisy", when it takes 10 seconds to check one of the other blog posts and see if the text there is selectable :(

Re: Just let me select text

#68

As a web dev, I fully agree with this, but with a huge exception: clickable text. Anything that is meant to be read as content should absolutely, without fail, be selectable and copyable (assuming appropriate permissions). But stuff like tab headers, buttons, or even text-sparse tiles - things meant for the user to click on - can, and usually should , prevent text selection. It is super annoying to be clicking back a…

I do not want to have to go into the dev console to copy the text of some random thing you think shouldn't be clickable. It's happened way too many times.

Re: Just let me select text

#69
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% disagree. Not everyone is fluent in every language, and not every website works perfectly with the browser's translator. There will be situations where people will want to translate that ONE word that is actually in a button or tab, and isn't selectable because someone thought they knew better.

isn't selectable because it breaks the UX for keyboard-only users. Has nothing to do with "thinking" anything. It's about testing with accessibility parameters and knowing* what practical problems occur. If you really need to translate ONE WORD, it's not that onerous to type it. You're bringing edge-case hypotheticals to a discussion about practical functionality.

I would argue that a word is typable is an edge case, especially dealing with another language. You can type words in basic latin script, sure, but you forget words with letters with diacritics, or even all words in non-latin script. In these cases OCR is also not necessarily reliable.

Re: Just let me select text

#70
post #64

This is the exact definition of hypocrisy. Though it might be intentional and as a way of making fun of what OP is talking about. Now to my actual response to this: there is a new official tool for Android devices that allows doing OCR, text selection (including copying), translation and even search, as well as reverse image search and music detection. I'm talking about the Circle to Search feature; it is a great thi…

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