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Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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This is unrelated to Ruby and the author is against free speech because he wants to professionaly censor someone because of his work-unrelated opinions. Plus there are perfectly valid reasons to prefer some categories of people over others. It has nothing to do with hate or fascism, it's only natural. I'm a DINK (double-income no kids) and I don't feel the hate of DDH, I only see someone who thinks it's worthwhile to…

Wait, people are complaining about his views on having children now?

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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Eh, maybe I would actually. Firstly, I don't give enough of a fuck about what any individual thinks and I certainly don't do background checks on conference speakers. Secondly, where do you draw the line? Shop workers? Hair dressers? Your taxi driver? Many of those in the country in which I am an immigrant would gladly forcibly deport me and separate me from my family; but I don't run scared enough of them to try to…

I've literally asked a taxi driver to let me out early because he started a racist rant. With a hairdresser, I'd leave a bad review (never argue with someone holding scissors).

The thing is, now that you do know someone's views - what are you going to do?

People with abhorrent views should learn that people disagree with them. Otherwise they will continue to spill their toxic poison everywhere.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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post #36

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Agreed, but being a conservative or right wing person does not equal being a fascist. We should be reserving those words to the people that really deserve them, otherwise the word loses the meaning.

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And this is why these very serious words have lost their power. Racist, Sexist, Fascist.... When half the country is deemed to support "literal" Himler, or when Elon Musk, or Jews with family impacted by the Holocaust, are called Nahtzees, then these words have been diluted to mean nothing.

I hope people who so overused&misused these words are happy with what they achieved.

Congratulations you made these words lose all power. I would have preferred a world where these words still had serious meaning attached to them.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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post #62

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Eh, maybe I would actually. Firstly, I don't give enough of a fuck about what any individual thinks and I certainly don't do background checks on conference speakers. Secondly, where do you draw the line? Shop workers? Hair dressers? Your taxi driver? Many of those in the country in which I am an immigrant would gladly forcibly deport me and separate me from my family; but I don't run scared enough of them to try to…

I've literally asked a taxi driver to let me out early because he started a racist rant. With a hairdresser, I'd leave a bad review (never argue with someone holding scissors). The thing is, now that you do know someone's views - what are you going to do? People with abhorrent views should learn that people disagree with them. Otherwise they will continue to spill their toxic poison everywhere.

Don't you realise this cuts both ways though? Your views are abhorrent to them, why are theirs worth less than yours?

For sure I don't agree with those people, but they absolutely have the same rights as we do to have their own opinions. Trying to silence them just makes you as bad as they are. We can't change the current state of global discourse, but we can each be more tolerant of each other and that starts with ourselves.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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So how is DHH a fascist? Or is this just the in vogue ad hominem attack right now?

Yeah, I don't really think it's addressed much in this article, but it's fairly clear from his posts. There is a thread here discussing it[0]. Essentially, he is posting articles[1] saying he wants fewer non-white people in London.[2]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45303111 [1] https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45303305

I was not aware of his opinions till yesterday, but I am still not sure how that is fascist, it might be something else but not fascist?

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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Agreed, but being a conservative or right wing person does not equal being a fascist. We should be reserving those words to the people that really deserve them, otherwise the word loses the meaning.

We as a society keep coming up with more and more esoteric definition of "fascist" just to avoid having one that fits modern day political actors. I feel like the word has far more meaning here, where it's used to describe a set of policy prescriptions than it is as only referring to a list of groups with all criteria for entry erased.

Personally it seems the other way round, more and more esoteric definition of X so you can label your opponent it and discount everything about them without having to debate. Hence why I had to ask if he actually is one.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

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Mate, I live in London. It's great. Come visit and enjoy a pint of beer. Travel will help you pull your head out of the sand.

Knife crime statistics seem to suggest otherwise. It is nice, until it is not.

Re: Ruby Central Is Not Behaving in Good Faith, and I've Got Receipts

#70
post #62

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I've literally asked a taxi driver to let me out early because he started a racist rant. With a hairdresser, I'd leave a bad review (never argue with someone holding scissors). The thing is, now that you do know someone's views - what are you going to do? People with abhorrent views should learn that people disagree with them. Otherwise they will continue to spill their toxic poison everywhere.

Don't you realise this cuts both ways though? Your views are abhorrent to them, why are theirs worth less than yours? For sure I don't agree with those people, but they absolutely have the same rights as we do to have their own opinions. Trying to silence them just makes you as bad as they are. We can't change the current state of global discourse, but we can each be more tolerant of each other and that starts with o…

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