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AI-generated “workslop” is destroying productivity?

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Re: AI-generated “workslop” is destroying productivity?

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The ai use mandates are odd. My guess is that the c-level execs have very little practical technical skills at this point, probably haven't written a line of code in 20 years. And they believe ALL the ai hype. They think LLM's can do anything, so any employees not using them are clearly wasting time.

The AI usage mandates are odd because why do the execs doubt that the workers try on their own to get the maximum utility out of the AI tools?

Execs more or less always assume that workers are some combination of stupid and lazy

After all if they weren't stupid and lazy they would be important execs, not unimportant workers

Re: AI-generated “workslop” is destroying productivity?

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Whatever the training can't assimilate, yet can be transmitted by users as analytic statements.

I'm not sure I understand this. Maybe an example would help, please?

Use your imagination. Any event that cannot be defined by low dimensional meaning (which there are myriad). The problem with the distinctions between event perception (what causes a car crash) and what AI assimilates is the arbitrary bottleneck of words, causal statements, images, deep reductions which are possible illusions of semantics like beliefs, motivations, desires.

Humans can take in a remarkable array of stimuli in order to perform tasks that are not cause and effect through optic flow. AI is stuck behind a veil of predicted tokens.

In essence, AI cannot automate mimicry of understanding even when the magic act demonstrates. Events are already tapeworms, but our skillset is so stuck behind the veil of folk psychology and f science, we are merely pretending we understand these events.

So a tapeworm format is probably somewhat like a non-causal contradictory event that may have infinite semantic readings. Think edges of paradox: Kubrick, Escher, Cezanne, Giorgione, Song Dynasty landscapes, Heraclitus, find the Koanic paradoxes of the East and keep conjoining them. Think beyond words, as thoughts are wordless, the tapeworms are out there, math doesn't and can't see them.

This is what's so jarring about meme-culture, which are tapeworms to AI as they are tapeworms to narrative containment culture, what might be viewed as academia/intelligensia/CS engineering/plain English media, the tapeworms are here, CS I think assumes the causal/semantic linkages are simple, meaning is low-bandwidth, but the reality is semantic is both limitless (any event) and illusory (meme-culture ie several memes in sequence). AI has no path in either case.

Re: AI-generated “workslop” is destroying productivity?

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If you were around for the heyday of Markov chain email and Usenet spam this whole thing is familiar. Sure AI slop generation is not directly comparable to Markov process and generated texts are infinitely smoother yet it has similar mental signature. I believe this similarity puts me squarely in the offended 22%.

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Not sure if this comment was written by a language model, or by a human pretending to be a language model.

Re: AI-generated “workslop” is destroying productivity?

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In the early aughts, I was so adept at navigating my town because I delivered pizza. I could draw a map from memory. My directional skills were A+. Once GPS became ubiquitous, I started relying on it, and over about a decade, my navigational skills degraded to the point of embarrassment. I've lived in the same major city now for 5 years and I still need a GPS to go everywhere. This is happening to many people now, wh…

I’m going to defend your dad here. AI slop at work is an absolute waste of time and effort. But your dad is trying to write his story, probably because he wants to leave something behind so he’s not forgotten. It might be cliche-riddled but AI is helping him write his experiences in a form he’s happy with and it’s still his story even if he got help. He’s also probably only writing it for an audience of one - you. So…

I sympathize with people who find writing difficult. But, putting myself in GP's shoes, I can't imagine trying to read my father's LLM-generated memoir. How could I possibly understand it as _his_ work? I would be sure that he gave the LLM some amount of information that would render it technically unique, but there's no way I could hear his voice in words that he didn't choose.

If you're writing something for an audience of one, literally nothing matters more than the connection between you and the reader. As someone with a father who's getting on in years, even imagining this scenario is pretty depressing.

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post #59

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See mostly on the subject but just slightly veering off context texts like this is why it's irritating. Arguing something not entirely relevant yet short of complete strawman and debating the tangents that were never brought up while never adding anything of substance.

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Not sure if this comment was written by a language model, or by a human pretending to be a language model.

I'm certain the account operator's parents think he is smart.

Re: AI-generated “workslop” is destroying productivity?

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post #59

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See mostly on the subject but just slightly veering off context texts like this is why it's irritating. Arguing something not entirely relevant yet short of complete strawman and debating the tangents that were never brought up while never adding anything of substance.

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Grasping nuance and implications of human replies is also something LLMs struggle with.

Re: AI-generated “workslop” is destroying productivity?

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post #33

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In the early aughts, I was so adept at navigating my town because I delivered pizza. I could draw a map from memory. My directional skills were A+. Once GPS became ubiquitous, I started relying on it, and over about a decade, my navigational skills degraded to the point of embarrassment. I've lived in the same major city now for 5 years and I still need a GPS to go everywhere. This is happening to many people now, wh…

I’m going to defend your dad here. AI slop at work is an absolute waste of time and effort. But your dad is trying to write his story, probably because he wants to leave something behind so he’s not forgotten. It might be cliche-riddled but AI is helping him write his experiences in a form he’s happy with and it’s still his story even if he got help. He’s also probably only writing it for an audience of one - you. So…

I get what you are saying, and a situation like this needs to be treated with extreme tact and care. But no, it's not his story, it's a low res approximation of his story as viewed through the lens of the stastical average reddit comment or self published book.

If the father is really into the tech side of it (as opposed to pure laziness), I'd ask him for the prompts alongside the generated text and just ignore the output. The prompts are the writing that is meant for the original commentor, and it is well worth it to take the tact of not judging those by their writing quality independently.

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The nephew has no programming knowledge. He wants to build a website that will turn him into a bazillionaire. He asks AI how to solve problem X. AI provides direction, but he doesn't quite know how to ask the right questions. Still, the AI manages to give him a 70% solution. He will go to his grave before he learns enough programming to do the remaining 30% himself, or, understand the first 70%. Delegating to AI isn'…

Who is "the nephew"?

Metaphorical - the story of the professional who had to make way for the boss’s nephew who took a php course last week…
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