It's so clear, dry, perfect lighting, no traffic or anything. That's shocking.
The debris is pretty close to the color of the road. Seems like a good case for radar/lidar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And yet the humans detected it without lidar?
Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles
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Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles
#62A friend of mine who loves Tesla watched this video and said "many humans would have hit that". I feel we'll be hearing a lot of that excuse.
Those humans saw the debris. What happens next when a human is actively at the wheel is that the driver should look at all mirrors, decide whether to change lane or brake, execute. Or anything else that could lead to a movie like multiple car accident. Hitting the debris is the least dangerous line of conduct if there are cars all around. That looked like an empty road but who knows.
By the way, playing a lot of racing videogames is a great training for dealing with that sort of stuff, except maybe getting good at mirrors. I've been in a few dangerous situations and they were only the 10th thousand averted crash. Nothing to think, only reflexes.
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#63Anecdotal: I am surprised how the basic Tesla autopilot often cannot even read the speed limit signs correctly. In perfect lighting conditions. It just misses a lot of them. And it does not understand the traffic rules enough to know when the speed limit ends.
I know that the basic autopilot is a completely different system than the so-called FSD.
But equipped with that experience from the basic autopilot, it does not surprise me that a large debris on the road was completely missed by the FSD.
Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles
#64A friend of mine who loves Tesla watched this video and said "many humans would have hit that". I feel we'll be hearing a lot of that excuse.
Well, I have to admit that your friend has a point. Humans are bad at reacting quickly and correctly to unexpected situations, and some debris large enough to damage your car showing up from out of nowhere after several hours of boring driving along a largely straight highway with little traffic is definitely one of these situations. But a self-driving system worth its salt should always be alert, scanning the road a…
The humans in the vehicle spotted it fine, and we should not tolerate self-driving systems that are only as good as the worst of us.
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#65Tangentially - If you as a European happen to drive on US highways, you will noticed that they are heavily littered with fallen cargo, aluminum ladders, huge amount of shredded tires and occasionally a trailer without a towing car... It has been so bizarre for me to observe this. Nobody is cleaning that?
It is clearly designed to test the self driving...
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#66Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you watch the video, the human non-drivers in the car noticed the road debris and could have reacted, but seemed not to because they were waiting for the computer to respond first.
They were testing FSD so I understand why they would do it. It also looked like roadkill and didn't expect it to be a hard obstacle.
> They were testing FSD
So if that was a human and they ran them over it'd be okay because they were testing FSD?
They're putting themselves (fine) and everyone around them (far less fine) in danger with this stunt.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Solar roofs, Dojo, Hyperloop, robotaxi, roadster, semi, mission around the Moon, man on Mars by 2020, it’s all coming guys he promised!
Boring Company. Whatever happened to those tunnels?
They did their job: they discouraged the construction of high-speed rail.
Musk has, IIRC, actually admitted that this was their purpose.
Re: Tesla influencers tried coast-to-coast self-driving, hit debris before 60 miles
#69Tangentially - If you as a European happen to drive on US highways, you will noticed that they are heavily littered with fallen cargo, aluminum ladders, huge amount of shredded tires and occasionally a trailer without a towing car... It has been so bizarre for me to observe this. Nobody is cleaning that?
Yes, people call it in and cops clean it up. We just have a lot of roads and people that poorly packed stuff in trucks
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#70I use Tesla FSD 99% of the time. I recently drove from Austin to Florida and back. The only time I had to take over was for road debris on the highway. Off the highway it’s very good about avoiding it. My guess is Tesla has not been focusing on this issue as it's not needed for robotaxi for phase one.
Any software that works 90% or even 99% of the time is not safe software especially when it has to be used to operate machines with deadly power.
sounds like you are arguing that humans should not be driving